soc.culture.vietnamese

On Feb 15, 6:49=A0pm, Elchinoboatconscie...@gmail.com wrote:
> Chi? ddem la.i xu+/ lie^.t zu+o+ng cho tu.i ma`y thui !!!
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> Ko' fa?i the^' Kho^ng Mo.i ???
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> On Feb 15, 3:23=A0pm, ":))" wrote:
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> > Sa('p va`o nha` thu*o*ng ta^m tha^`n chu*a va^.y cha nu.i ???
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> > On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 14:55:11 -0800 (PST), hochim...@gmail.com wrote:
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> > :DDo^`ng ba`o ta bu+'c xu'c vi` "Trung Quo^'c" no' a(n hie^'p, no' cu
> > :+o
> > :+'p dda^'t, no' cu+o+'p dda?o, no' cu+o+'p bie^?n.
> > :
> > :Nhu+ng la.i que^n nhu+~ng nga`y pho^i thai cu?a Ba'c Ho^` da^~n nho'm
> > :bo^. ddo^.i ve^` ta.m tru' o+? hang Pa(cPo'.
> > :
> > :No' dde? thi` no' co' quye^`n ... dda^.p.
> > :
> > :Nhu+~ng nga`y ma` DDa.i ddo^`ng Chi' TQ cu+u mang dda?ng ta.
> > :
> > :No' dde? thi` no' co' quye^`n ... dda^.p.
> > :
> > :Nhu+~ng nga`y ma` cha la` DDC Xo^ Vie^'t va` me. la` DDC TQ dda~
> > :pho^'i ho+.p dde^? thu. thai ca'i dda?ng Lao DDo^.ng Do^ng Du+o+ng do
> > :Ba'c Ho^` ta la~nh dda.o.
> > :
> > :No' dde? thi` no' co' quye^`n ... dda^.p.
> > :
> > :Que^n he^'t ro^`i sao???
> > :
> > :No' dde? thi` no' co' quye^`n ... dda^.p.
> > :
> > :La.i que^n nhu+~ng nga`y Hai DDC giu'p dda'nh tha('ng DBPhu? a`???
> > :
> > :No' dde? thi` no' co' quye^`n ... dda^.p.
> > :
> > :La.i que^n nhu+~ng nga`y hai DDC ta giu'p dda'nh tha('ng My~ Ngu.y
> > :a`???
> > :
> > :No' dde? thi` no' co' quye^`n ... dda^.p.
> > :
> > :No' kho^n, no' ta.o ra nhu+~ng tha(`ng ba'n nu+o+'c, ba('t da^n la`m
> > :no^ le^.n cho Nga, cho Ta`u.
> > :
> > :No' dde? thi` no' co' quye^`n ... dda^.p.
> > :
> > :No' kho^n, no' kho^ng ca^`n pha?i xa^m la(ng, no' kho^ng ca^`n pha?i
> > :ddo^? ma'u. =A0Chi? ta.o ra nhu+~ng tha(`ng ba'n nu+o+'c, bie^'t trung
> > :tha`nh vo+'i dda?ng. =A0The^' la` chu'ng chi? ca^`n ra le^.nh, tie^'p
> > :te^' dda.n du+o+.c, co^' va^'n chie^'n tru+o+`ng. =A0The^' la` trie^.u
> > :trie^.u da^n pha?i che^'t vi` chu'ng.
> > :The^' la` dda^'t nu+o+'c pha?i da^ng kho^ng cho chu'ng.
> > :
> > :No' dde? thi` no' co' quye^`n ... dda^.p.
> > :
> > :Ba pha^`n tu+ the^' ky?, da^n to^.c ca? nu+o+'c pha?i ddie^u linh vi`
> > :chu'ng. =A0Nhu+ng the^' kho^ng ddu?. =A0Kho^ng ddu? dda^u. =A0No' se~ t=
ie^'p
> > :tu.c cai tri. nu+o+'c ta qua dda?ng va` nha` nu+o+'c ta. =A0Ngu thi`
> > :ra'ng chi.u.
> > :
> > :No' dde? thi` no' co' quye^`n ... dda^.p.
> > :
> > :Ba pha^`n tu+ the^' ky?. =A0Nha^n da^n va^~n ngu muo^.i, tin va`o lo+`i=

> > :tuye^n truye^`n cu?a bo.n cho^`n ca'o. =A0DDe^? no' ngo^`i tre^n dda^`u=
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> > :tre^n co^?, dde^? chu'ng no' bo'c lo^.t, ha~m hie^'p, ta`n sa't, dda`n
> > :a'p kho^ng co`n mie^'ng co+m ma` a(n, kho^ng co`n mie^'ng a'o che
> > :tha^n, kho^ng co`n la` con ngu+o+`i nu+~a. =A0Ngu thi` ra'ng chi.u.
> > :
> > :No' dde? thi` no' co' quye^`n ... dda^.p.
> > :
> > :Kho^n cu~ng che^'t, ma` ngu cu~ng che^'t.
> > :
> > :No' dde? thi` no' co' quye^`n ... dda^.p.
> > :
> > :Do^'t cu~ng che^'t. Ma` da.i cu~ng che^'t.
> > :
> > :No' dde? thi` no' co' quye^`n ... dda^.p.
> > :
> > :Chi? co' tha(`ng Ta`u no' bie^'t, no' so^'ng.
> > :
> > :No' dde? thi` no' co' quye^`n ... dda^.p.
> > :
> > :Cu+' tin va`o bo.n ve.m thi` so+'m muo^.n cu~ng che^'t.
> > :
> > :No' dde? thi` no' co' quye^`n ... dda^.p.
> > :
> > :Mu+`ng DDA?ng cu+o+'p Ta`u, mu+`ng dda?ng cu+o+'p ta.
> > :
> > :DDu+`ng que^n dda^'y nhe'!!!!
> > :
> > :Sa'ng ma('t ra chu+a? =A0Gio+` na`y:
> > :
> > :Ai mo+'i thu+.c la` Ngu.y? =A0Ai mo+'i thu+.c la` DDe^' Quo^'c????
> > :
> > :Ai mo+'i thu+.c la` Ngu.y? =A0Ai mo+'i thu+.c la` DDe^' Quo^'c????
> > :
> > :Ai mo+'i thu+.c la` Ngu.y? =A0Ai mo+'i thu+.c la` DDe^' Quo^'c????
> > :
> > :
> > :
> > :______________________________________________________
> > :
> > :
> > :Trung Co^.ng Chi? DDa.o va` Tham Gia To^?ng Ta^'n Co^ng Ma^.u Tha^n
> > :1968.
> > :________________________________________
> > :* Nguye^~n Quang Duy (Melbourne, U'c DDa.i Lo+.i)
> > :Vi pha.m hu+u chie^'n, Te^'t Ma^.u Tha^n 1968, qua^n ddo^.i co^.ng sa?
> > :n dda~ to^?ng ta^'n co^ng thu? ddo^ Sa`i Go`n va` ha^`u he^'t ca'c
> > :tha`nh pho^' ti?nh ly. ta.i mie^`n Nam. Bo^'n mu+o+i na(m qua, do
> > :thie^'u ta`i lie^.u, chu'ng ta thu+o+`ng hie^?u nga^`m vai tro` cu?a
> > :Trung Co^.ng la` ho^? tro+. co^.ng sa?n Vie^.t Nam xa^m chie^'m mie^`n
> > :Nam. Ba`i vie^'t na`y du+.a tre^n nhu+~ng ta`i lie^.u no^.i bo^. hai
> > :dda?ng co^.ng sa?n Vie^.t Nam va` Trung Co^.ng ddu+o+.c gia?i ma^.t
> > :chi? ro~ vai tro` chi? dda.o cu?a nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i ca^`m quye^`n Ba('c
> > :Kinh - Ha` No^.i.
> > :
> > :To`an bo^. ca'c ta`i lie^.u ba(`ng tie^'ng Trung Hoa ddu+o+.c di.ch
> > :sang Anh ngu+~ va` pho^? bie^'n tre^n ma.ng "Cold War International
> > :History Project" Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholar
> > :(http://www.wilsoncenter.org/index.cfm?
> > :
> > :Ma(.c du` nhu+~ng ta`i lie^.u ddu+o+.c pho^? bie^'n qua chu+o+ng
> > :tri`nh nghie^n cu+'u li.ch su+? chie^'n tranh la.nh, mie^`n Nam la`
> > :mo^.t ddie^?m "no'ng" ma` ha^.u qua? dde^'n ho^m nay va^~n co`n dda^.m
> > :ne't. Ba`i xa~ lua^.n "Tha thu+' ddu+o+.c! La~ng que^n kho^ng bao gio
> > :+`" (http://www.doi-thoai.com/baimoi0208_085.html) no'i ddu+o+.c
> > :pha^`n na`o su+. kie^.n va` go'p nha^.n ddi.nh tu+` phi'a ca'c na.n
> > :nha^n bie^'n co^' Ma^.u Tha^n.
> > :
> > :Bie^'n co^' dda~ xa^?y ra he^'t su+'c ba^'t ngo+` cho chi'nh quye^`n,
> > :qua^n ddo^.i va` da^n chu'ng Mie^`n Nam. Nhu+ng i't ra tru+'o+c ddo' nu=

> > :+?a na(m, nga`y 4/7/1967, Vo~ Nguye^n Gia'p va` Pha.m va(n DDo^`ng
> > :dda~ sang Trung Co^.ng dde^? tu+o+`ng tri`nh Ba('c Kinh ti`nh hi`nh
> > :va` chie^'n lu+o+.c qua^n su+., bao go^`m cuo^.c to^?ng ta^'n co^ng
> > :na`y.
> > :
> > :Pha.m va(n DDo^`ng dda~ ba'o ca'o Chu a^n Lai nhu+ sau: "Mo^.t so^'
> > :chie^'n lu+o+.c ddang ddu+o+.c a'p du.ng tre^n chie^'n tru+o+`ng
> > :mie^`n Nam theo lo+`i dde^` nghi. khi tru+o+'c cu?a ca'c ddo^`ng
> > :chi'." Chie^'n tranh nha^n da^n la` chie^'n lu+o+.c dda~ ddu+o+.c a'p
> > :du.ng tre^n chie^'n tru+o+`ng mie^`n Nam. Chie^'n lu+o+.c na`y do Mao
> > :Tra.ch DDo^ng dde^` xu+o+'ng, chu? ye^'u la` "la^'y no^ng tho^n bao
> > :va^y tha`nh thi." va` "vu~ trang to^?ng ta^'n co^ng va` no^?i da^.y".
> > :Chie^'n lu+o+.c na`y ddu+o+.c xu+? du.ng nhu+ kim chi? nam cho cuo^.c
> > :to^?ng ta^'n co^ng Ma^.u Tha^n 1968.
> > :
> > :
> > :Li'nh Trung Quo^'c ta.i Vie^.t nam
> > :
> > :Trong buo^?i ho.p, Chu a^n Lai than tho+?, o^ng va` ca'c ddo^`ng chi'
> > :cu?a o^ng dde^`u dda~ tre^n du+o+'i ba^?y mu+o+i, va` nha^'n
> > :ma.nh :"Ma(.c du` to^i dda~ gia`, tham vo.ng va^~n co`n ddo'. Ne^'u
> > :chie^'n tranh o+? mie^`n Nam kho^ng cha^'m du+'t va`o na(m to+'i, to^i
> > :se~ tha(m ca'c ddo^`ng chi' va` tham quan." Na(m to+'i ma` Chu a^n Lai
> > :muo^'n nha^'n ma.nh la` Ma^.u Tha^n 1968.
> > :
> > :DDe^? su+?a so.an cho Ma^.u Tha^n 1968, tru+o+'c ddo' ba na(m va`o
> > :nga`y 08/04/1965, Le^ Dua^?n sang Ta^`u ca^`u vie^.n. Dua^?n le^n
> > :tie^'ng :"Chu'ng to^i muo^'n mo^.t so^' phi co^ng va` thie^.n chi'
> > :qua^n, ... va` nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i thie^.n nguye^.n kha'c, bao go^`m nhu
> > :+~ng ddo+n vi. xa^y du+.ng ca^`u co^'ng, ddu+o+`ng sa'." Lu+u Thie^'u
> > :Ky` (Liu Shaoqi) dda'p la.i "DDo' chi'nh la` chi'nh sa'ch cu?a chu'ng
> > :to^i, chu'ng to^i se~ la`m to^'t nha^'t dde^? ddo'ng go'p vo+'i ca'c
> > :ddo^`ng chi'."
> > :
> > :Ta.i Ha` No^.i, nga`y 13/4/1965, Tao Zhu, bi' thu+ Trung u+o+ng dda?ng
> > :co^.ng sa?n Trung Quo^'c Nam pha^n bo^., ba'o cho Ho^` chi' Minh Trung
> > :u+o+ng dda?ng co^.ng sa?n Trung Quo^'c va` Mao dda~ giao tra'ch
> > :nhie^.m vie^.n binh cho 4 ti?nh phi'a Nam.
> > :
> > :DDe^? cha('c cha('n, nga`y 16/05/1965, Ho^` chi' Minh dda~ sang Ta^`u
> > :ho^.i kie^'n Mao tra.ch DDo^ng. O^ng tri`nh ba`y vo+'i Mao ke^' ho.ach
> > :xa^y du+.ng he^. tho^'ng giao tho^ng phi'a Ba('c dde^? tie^'p nha^.n
> > :qua^n vie^.n tu+` ca'c quo^'c gia trong kho^'i co^.ng sa?n qua bie^n
> > :gio+'i Trung Co^.ng. Cu`ng vo+'i ke^' ho.ach xa^y du+.ng ddu+o+`ng
> > :mo`n Ho^` chi' Minh dde^? xa^m nha^.p mie^`n Nam. O^ng no'i vo+'i
> > :Mao : "Ne^'u chu? ti.ch Mao ddo^`ng y' Trung Quo^'c se~ giu'p, chu'ng
> > :to^i se~ go+?i ngu+o+`i cu?a chu'ng to^i va`o Nam." Mao tra? lo
> > :+`i :"Chu'ng to^i cha^'p nha^.n. Chu'ng to^i se~ la`m. Kho^ng co'
> > :va^'n dde^` gi` ca?."
> > :
> > :Nga`y 23/3/1966, Le^ Dua^?n sang Ta^`u bi. Chu A^n Lai cha^'t va^'n
> > :ve^` vie^.c Vie^.t Nam chi'nh thu+'c ke^u go.i vie^.n binh tu+` ca'c
> > :quo^'c gia co^.ng sa?n kha'c, nha^'t la` tu+` So^ Vie^'t. Chuye^'n
> > :ca^`u vie^.n na`y co' le~ dda~ tha^'t ba.i, ba tua^`n sau Dua^?n la.i
> > :pha?i sang Ta^`u mo^.t la^`n nu+~a.
> > :
> > :Bie^n ba?n buo^?i ho.p nga`y 13/4/1966, giu+~a Chu A^n Lai, DDa(.ng
> > :tie^?u Bi`nh, Kang Shen, Le^ Dua^?n va` Nguye^~n Duy Trinh, ddu+o+.c tu=

> > :+o+`ng tri`nh vo+'i nhie^`u du+~ kie^.n li.ch su+? quan tro.ng.
> > :DDa(.ng cho bie^'t chi? chu+a dde^'n mo^.t na(m Trung Co^.ng dda~ go+?
> > :i sang Vie^.t Nam 130.000 qua^n dde^? xa^y du+.ng co+ so+? ha. ta^`ng
> > :chie^'n lu+o+.c, ha(`ng chu.c nga`n qua^n chie^'n dda^'u hie^.n ddang
> > :tu'c tru+.c o+? bie^n gio+'i, dda~ co' nhu+~ng tha?o lua^.n ve^`
> > :vie^.c Trung Co^.ng se~ tham chie^'n ne^'u chie^'n tranh xa?y ra. Dua^?=

> > :n go'p y' :" Ba^y gio+` dda~ co' ha(`ng tra(m nga`n qua^n Trung Co^.ng
> > :ta.i Vie^.t Nam, nhu+ng chu'ng to^i nghi~ ra(`ng ne^'u co' chuye^.n
> > :nghie^m tro.ng xa^?y ra, o+? ddo' ca^`n thie^'t 500.000 qua^n."
> > :
> > :Chu A^n Lai tuye^n bo^' du+. ddi.nh se~ go+?i chu+`ng 4 dde^'n 5 to'an
> > :nghie^n cu+'u qua^n su+. go^`m chu+`ng 100 ngu+o+`i va`o Nam Vie^.t
> > :dde^? quan sa't ti`nh hi`nh qua^n su+.. Lai nha^'n ma.nh ca'c toa'n
> > :na`y co' the^? se~ dde^'n ta^.n ngo.ai o^ Sa`i Go`n.
> > :
> > :Phi'a Trung Co^.ng cu~ng mie^~n cu+o+~ng cha^'p nha^.n dde^? Vie^.t
> > :Nam Da^n Chu? Co^.ng Ho`a nha^.n vie^.n binh tu+` ca'c quo^'c gia
> > :co^.ng sa?n kha'c. Qua cuo^.c ho.p giu+~a Ngo.ai tru+o+?ng Ta^`u Qian
> > :Guanhua va` dda.i su+' Vie^.t Nam Ngo^ Minh Loan, nga`y 13/5/1967,
> > :rie^ng ca'c tha'ng 5 va` 6 na(m 1967, Lie^n So^ dda~ vie^.n tro+.
> > :Vie^.t Nam 24 phi co+ chie^'n dda^'u go^`m 12 Mig 17 va` 12 Mig 21.
> > :
> > :Cu`ng nga`y 4/7/1967, nga`y ma` Chu a^n Lai nha('c dde^'n vie^.c
> > :chie^'n tranh o+? mie^`n Nam cha^'m du+'t va`o Ma^.u Tha^n, Pha.m va(n
> > :DDo^`ng dda~ ba'o cho Lai bie^'t Lie^n So^ dde^` nghi. Trung Co^.ng
> > :cho gia ta(ng so^' lu+o+.ng qua^n vie^.n
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Elchi,

No chu+a?

DDchi' Ta`u, u?a que^n, co^' va^'n Trung quo^'c no' i. ra ddo+'p no chu
+a?
Ca' tra, ca' bo^ng lau co`n pha?i nga'n, chu+' ddu+`ng no'i chi ca'c
ddo^`ng chi' bo.n bay.
Bo.n bay co' bie^'t tha(`ng dda?ng to^? cu?a bo.n bay la` ai kho^ng?

Tha(`ng HCM kho^ng pha?i dda?ng to^? dda^u. Tha(`ng dda?ng to^? la`
Mao xe^'nh xa'ng. Co`n tha(`ng Ho^` chi? la` dda^`y to+' cu?a Mao
xe^'nh xa'ng tho^i.

Ma`y da'm mo+? mie^.ng khu`ng ra chu+?i tha(`ng to^? cu?a ma`y kho^ng?

Tha'ch ddo'!!!