soc.history.war.misc

nospam wrote, on 2008/03/28 04:26:
> Here's a link with current, relevance. .
> http://911wasahoax.blogspot.com/2006/08/rothschilds-top-of-food-chain-and-are.html

Yet anther mass of unsubstantiated assertions. Do you not understand the
idea of proof and evidence? Merely claiming on a blog that something is
so does not actually make it so.

And of the 3 supposed sources given, one is that silly Rothschild
timeline (this time at the original URL instead of the copied site) I
already called into question it's veracity due to an inability to get
even the basic historical facts correct. The other two are at a domain
which has dropped off the web, they are inaccessible. The registered
nameservers for wealth4freedom.com ({ns|ns2|ns3}.propagation.net) have
no idea about that domain.

However, given that it says the title of one of those links is named
"The Satanic Rothschilds Dynasty", one can take a guess as to the topic
it covers and the lack of proof for same.

>
> We are not as interested in old history, which you claim could be
> false. So what. Please note the errors in points presented from the

Nice moving of the goalposts there.

Again I ask, if the claimant cannot get basic facts of history correct,
such as when the founder of his putative world-controlling dynasty was
born or where that founder took his name from, what does that say about
the reliability of the other claims?

As for another error in the silly timeline, try this:

"2003: The United States invade Iraq on 19 March, which this year is the
holy, "Day of Purim," in the Jewish calendar. This, "Day of Purim," is a
day the Jews celebrate their victory over Ancient Babylon, now based
within the borders of Iraq, how interesting."

First, the US and allies invaded Iraq on 20 March, as the deadline given
for Saddam and his family turning themselves in was 0100 UTC on that
day. Approximately 90 minutes after the deadline (02:30 UTC) explosions
wer enoticed in Bagdad and at 03:15 UTC President Bush announced on TV
that he had ordered the attack.

Second, Purim was on 18 March in 2003, according to timeadndate.com
().

One wonders how much other dishonest fudging of dates and such is in
that crank timeline.

> above link. Current history.

Ws that cureent rnough for you? That was just just a quick-scan cherry
pick. Without a solid foundation it's naught but a house of cards. *poof!*

That timeline also tries to use a "Stephen E. Jones" of Brigham Young
University as an authoritative source for "proving" that the World Trade
Center towers were feled by deliberate explosions, no the airplanes.
First, its "Steven", not "Stephen" and second, the BYU College of
Physical and Mathematical Sciences and the faculty of structural
engineering department called into question the lack of proper
scientific rigor in his claims.

So, this timeline is shown to not be able to spell people's names
correctly nor get well known recent and historical dates correct.
Combine with a lack of proof and proper references you have a rather
pathetic kook theory which fails to meet even basic high school
standards of academic rigor.

> On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 21:53:50 -0400, Cory Albrecht
> wrote:
>
>> nospam wrote, on 2008/03/27 05:32:
>>> I think ~thewitness provided a good link. Can you disprove any fact
>>> on the list?
>> What facts? All I see are a load of bare assertions with no proofs to
>> back them up.
>>
>> E.g. "Mayer Amschel Bauer, born Frankfurt, Germany, the son of Moses
>> Amschel Bauer, a money lender and the proprietor of a counting house.
>> Over the entrance door he places a red sign. This sign is a six pointed
>> star (which geometrically and numerically translates into the number
>> 666) which under Rothschild instruction will end up on the Israeli flag
>> some two centuries later."
>>
>> First, it was Mayer's father, Moses Amschel Bauer, who hung a sign of a
>> red shield out to identify his store (Charles Mosley, Burke's Peerage
>> and Baronetage, 107th edition, volume 3, p. 415), not Mayer. So that's
>> one assertion shown to be wrong. Actually three false assertions, since
>> it was a sign of a shield, not a six pointed red star. Remember,
>> "Rothschild", which Mayer changed his last name to, means "red shield"
>> in German,and the third being that Mayer was not born until 1744.
>>
>> And that bit about how a six pointed star "geometrically and numerically
>> translates" into 666? Numerology does not equal facts.
>>
>> Also, where is the proof that this implied Star of David was placed on
>> the Israeli flag on Rothschild say so? Oh, there is that supposed list
>> of sources, however there are no proper references to tell us which
>> supposed fact came from which supposed source. Even a high school
>> history teacher would give it a failing grade for just that.
>>
>> Remember - iamthewitness is the one who made the claim that the
>> Rothschilds control virtually all the world's central banks, therefore
>> it is up to him/her to prove that claim. It is not up to me to disprove
>> it. Even so, look how easy it was for me to point out 5 major problems
>> with his kooky conspircy theory.
>>
>>> On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 22:03:06 -0400, Cory Albrecht
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Oh look! No facts yet again, just mounds of unproven assertions. Can you
>>>> say "kook"?
>>>> ? iamthewitness.com ? wrote, on 2008/03/26 20:03:
>>>>> The History of the House of Rothschild
>>>>> http://www.lookingglassnews.org/viewcommentary.php?storyid=121
>>>>>
>>>
>>> The more I know, the more I know - I don't know.
>> Just make sure that what you know is actually the truth, not unproven
>> assertions made by people like iamthewitness who can't even get their
>> facts straight.
>
> The more I know, the more I know - I don't know.