Group: sci.physics.electromag
From: a_plutonium
Date: Sunday, February 17, 2008 11:52 PM
Subject: #76 Capacitor Current as a longitudinal EM wave ; new textbook: "How Superconductivity really works; nanosecond Capacitor discharge current"

Archimedes Plutonium wrote:

>
> A current certainly has two components
> the E wave and B wave. And a wave certainly can be categorized as
> longitudinal and transverse.
>
> Now can I categorize all electrical-waves as to these five types?
> (1) E-B transverse
> (2) E longitudinal
> (3) B longitudinal
> (4) E transverse
> (5) B transverse
>
>
> Mind you, only the first one is 100% pure whereas the others are
> impurity mixes.
>
> Then can I say that a AC current is (1) and a Lightning bolt current
> is (2)
> and a ferromagnet current is (3) and a Maxwell displacement current
> is (4)
> and a Meissner Effect is (5)? Is such a classification good and
> useful?
>
> I think I can make such a classification that holds meaning because I
> can make
> a classification similar to the above for Magnetism where we have a
> broad range
> of different distinct types of magnetism. If we have it for magnetism
> then we have
> it for electric component of EM
>
> (1) ferromagnetism
> (2) paramagnetism
> (3) diamagnetism
>
> But where it gets very useful is that we have such an enormously broad
> classification
> in chemistry of bonds:
>
> (1) covalent
> (2) metallic
> (3) ionic
> .
> .
> .
> .
> (n)
>
> The logical, and utmost logical of minds, would say, hey, if there is
> a large classification
> of bonds that are very much different from one another and since bonds
> in chemistry are
> nothing more than EM force, and since there are many different types
> of magnetism,
> then, to a logical mind, there should be more than simply one or two
> types of current
> in Nature.
>
> As I said in an earlier post, when Maxwell sat down to unify the EM
> forces with his brilliant
> Maxwell Equations, he entered that discovery process with only one
> current to cover all
> of Nature's currents but the equations themselves forced Maxwell to
> leave his equations
> with a new and added current which he called the Displacement current.
> So the Maxwell
> Equations from the start assumed the world had but only one type of
> current, and the
> equations produced a wholly second and different type of current.
>
> What this textbook is all about is to nail down the true and correct
> theory of superconductivity
> and that there is a very different type of current that exists that is
> not factored into the Maxwell
> Equations.
>
> EM current that sends photon messengers to the electrons at the
> opposite end of the circuit to
> move whereas the current moves at a slow drift speed is the current
> used in the Maxwell Equations.
>
> However, there is a current not used in the Maxwell Equations where
> the electrons move at
> near the speed of light having come from a capacitor discharge.
>
> Perhaps the Maxwell Equations need some revision to allow for an EM
> longitudinal wave where
> electrons travel near the speed of light.

Now I am sure the above has alot of mistakes and errors, but the line
of arguement
is clear and sound. The line of argument that we know little to
nothing about
what type of distinct "currents" there are in Nature. In fact, we
probably know
what types of disctint bonds in chemistry or forms of magnetism there
exists
than we know of what different distinct currents exist.

I mentioned longitudinal and transverse waves above. But let me start
over at the
point.

Let me try to describe on a purely geometrical argument what types of
current
can exist that moves a electron charge from point A to point B.

I can think of purely geometrical these pictures:

(1) longitudinal wave
(2) sinusoidal wave
(3) transverse wave
(4) elliptical wave
(5) straight-line motion

Now we all know that a lightwave is transverse with a E component and
B component

So can we have a longitudinal lightwave where the lightwave is carried
by a longitudinal
wave?

Can we have a lightwave that is carried via a Sinusoidal wave?

Can we have a lightwave which is transverse itself be a subset of a
larger
transverse wave? Where a lightwave is the pilot wave of a larger
transverse wave?

An elliptic wave is what I imagine as a Field. Where point A is a
distance away
from point B and we draw an ellipse from A to B and so the lightwave
travels
in this elliptic path from point A to point B. In this fashion, we can
make "Field theory"
as a special case of a travelling lightwave.

And last on the list above is a electron charge or proton charge that
simple moves from
point A to point B in a straight line. Much of what we think of as
particle motion rather
than wave motion.

Now am I going anywhere with all these possibilities? I think so. If
you look at page
891 in Brown, LeMay, Bursten, fifth ed. "Chemistry the Central
Science" you see
how three simple geometrical pictures clarify what the difference
between diamagnetism
paramagnetism and ferromagnetism are.

In the same manner, I am looking for simple geometry to explain the
most important
different types of current that exist in Nature.

First we have to acknowledge that Physics has very many different
types of currents
which the present day physics community is ignorant thereof. But once
we acknowledge
that currents are as many and varied as are chemical bonds and as
there are forms
of magnetism, then we can begin to systematize what those currents
are, and then
have the very best geometry of those different types of currents.

One of those currents is the Capacitor Current which I believe is the
heart of Superconduction.
Perhaps the Capacitor Current is a Longitudinal EM current.

Now progress will be made on this issue if we begin to realize that we
can explain AC from
DC so much better by purely a geometrical picture. Or explain the
Maxwell Displacement
current in the Ampere Maxwell law as a geometrical picture.

Archimedes Plutonium
www.iw.net/~a_plutonium
whole entire Universe is just one big atom
where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies