sci.physics.electromag

On 2 avr, 17:32, Benj wrote:
> On Mar 30, 2:53 pm, Randy Poe wrote:
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> > On Mar 30, 2:21 pm, Ralph Hertle wrote:
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> > > You can't prove that the photon is not a discrete existent and that th=
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> > > appropriate experiments are not possible.
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> > > What facts exist that indicate that the photon actually exists?
> > Thousands of experiments. Off the top of my head:
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> > Direct evidence:
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> > Single-photon diffraction experiments, single-photon *anything*
> > experiments.
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> > Indirect evidence: blackbody radiation and the photoelectric
> > effect, which are inconsistent with un-quantized light. Why
> > is there a minimum frequency for the photoelectric electrons
> > to be emitted?
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> > Single photons are routinely detected in experiments all
> > the time.
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> Randy is right and the monkey wrench in Ralph's wave-photon theory is
> that a photon detector doesn't need to be 100% efficient to detect
> photons. It basically just misses a few. And the kick in the butt to
> Ralph's double slit idea is that IF you put a detector over one slit
> of a double slit, and bring the intensity down to single photon
> levels, you find that a photon goes through either one slit or the
> other and ALL of it goes through JUST ONE slit! You can tell by the
> energy in the photons detected. Wave theory on the other hand would
> predict a splitting of the energy. So now is the mystery! You have
> BOTH particle and wave properties attached to the this "entity" called
> a "photon" and no real model with which to "think" about what might be
> going on! The current view that such a model is "impossible" seems to
> me to be a cop-out!

It definitely is a cop-out.

As I said, de Broglie provided the key to developping the right model
to account for constant locality of photons in sync with these
experimental
results.

But since de Broglie's hypothesis directly contradicts the majority
view
Copenhagen interpretation that the wave function "forbids" permanent
locality of moving particles, it has systematically been disregarded
as a fantasy, and never was explored futher.

Andr=E9 Michaud