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Ion propulsion or ion thrusters are becoming the ultimate alternative
for the future of faster and more extended space travels, although the
usual topic taboo or nondisclosure nature of this Usenet and of most
other web forums is truly impressive, as in don't ask and don't tell,
or else they'll kick our butts.

Of second to ion propulsion is gravity, and big nasty star/solar
systems do tend to pull upon whatever is on their side of the
interstellar L1, especially if such an item as a spacecraft or robotic
probe were getting ion thrusted towards that given star at even as
little as 0.000001 Gee.

BTW, they supposedly don't much care for a direct sales pitch of items
within Usenet, but compared to everything else they allow, what the
hell. Giving a link to an external web page of items for sale might
be a little safer bet.
. - Brad Guth


On Mar 5, 2:13 pm, Hank Kroll wrote:
> I don't know what the big deal is about keeping ionic
> propulsion top secret. The cold war has been over for some time and
> the Communists propably invented them before we did anyway. Its not
> that complicated. You take the guts out of a microwave oven, mount a
> parabolic reflector behing the tube so that it concentrate the
> mocrowave energy into a point inject a little water into that point at
> the same time you push the thrust button and volia you have thrust.
> When you run out of water you can stick just about anything in there
> and it will ionize it. When you are close enough to other star sstems
> for yoursolar cells to work you will ionic propulsion. You would think
> it was rocket science! I lived twelve miles north of Cape Canaveral
> and watched Werner Von Brun's team put the first satellite in orbit.
> We owned two large parcels of land and they kicked everybody off Merit
> Island so that they could pretend to put men on the Moon.
> Ionic propulsion has been around before the cold war. When
> I was twelve Popular Science and National Geographic both showed
> pictures of gold plated ion rocket cubes attached to satellites with
> five nozzels pointing in five diferent directions controlled by a
> solonoid valve for manovering purposes. They even had manually
> controlled ones for the astronauts operated by a four-way toggle
> switch. When I was going to college whenever I would mention ionic
> propulsion the teacher would clam up. When I would aske anyone from
> NASA or JPL about ion engines they would clam up and give me strange
> look.
> Ionic propulsion is the only way we move around in space
> using conventional technology. Until we have mass reduction technology
> and can alter time and warp space (some of us can already do this) we
> have to stick with what works.
> What I have been working on lately is mutural gravity
> alignment bubbles between multiple star systems. Using our
> conventional ionic propulsion technology we might be able to sustain
> 1/10 earth gravity acceleration so there would be fairly large spaces
> between stars where a spaceship could navigate using ionic propulsion.
> If you went outside this envelop you would have to use your rocket
> power to get back in. In a real dire emergency you would have to use
> nuclear to get back into the safe zones. At the present time mankind
> has the coputational capability to create three dimensional maps of
> the mutural gravity points dictated by the capability of our ionic
> propulsion rockets. Teh software already exists but they won't let us
> use it. The Berkley-JPL Labritory has a 2048 CPU with terrabites of
> memory but us common folk aren't allowed to use it even though we paid
> for it.
> Those of you who have an inkling of what Brad and I are
> talking about know that our sun reached a mutural gravity point at
> apogee about ten to twelve thousand years ago in its orbit around the
> Sirius system and we (our sun) is traveling (accelerating) toward
> Sirius A & B at 7.5 kilometer per second. We (our sun) exists in an
> oblong star cluster of 100 stars about 15 light years by 100 light
> years ruled by two the giants Sirius and Procyon which are several
> billion years older than our sun. We obviously didn't come from the
> same place. Our sun was born in Orion--a birthing place for stars 1330
> light years to the south. Both Sirius and Procyon have white dwarfs
> with masses larger than our sun. Sirius A and B is the object that
> started advance multicellular life forms on Earth. Sirius B orbits
> Sirius A every 54 years. There are many other larger star clusters
> around us; some containing 2500 stars.
> To make a very long story short after our sun was born in
> Orion with about 40 other stars. The planets formed from extra
> material and we drifted out away from Orion for three billion years.
> Earth had a 1450 pound per square inch atmosphere and 1/3 of it was
> CO2. Earth had an Ice Age that lasted over a billion years and finally
> we drifted between Procyon and Sirius into a mutural gravity alignment
> point. Sirius B with 1.5 solar masses that orbits Sirius A every 54
> years came around and put our Sun into orbit around Sirius while our
> sister stars kept going and are in a much larger orbit. The aditional
> light and heat from these very old stars took Earth out of it's
> billion-year-long ice age and the intense light from Sirius B which
> puts out from 100 to 1000 times more UV than our sun started plants
> growning on the surface of the oceans. It took the intense light from
> a neutron or white dwarf to penetrate earth's 1450 pound per square
> inch atmosphere and start laying down coal, oil and limesone with
> plant growth. 650-million years of this took earth's atmospher down to
> 14.5 pound per square inch giving us free oxygen, coal, oil and
> limestone. You can't drive a car without a neutron star! You can read
> the entire book in a couple months by ordering it from Trafford of
> Victoria British Columbia, Amazon.com Boarders, Bokers Etc., Etc.
> You can read a dsylexic version of it right now by
> going to my web sitewww.alaskapublishing.com. It can be downloaded
> for $4.00. I got my directions backward in regards to which way we are
> heading for Sirius. The mainstream information I have to work with is
> not that good. The book itself will be awsome with over twenty
> wonderful, full-page, full-color images and graphs. WWW.ALASKAPUBLISHING.COM
> BEST WISHES, HANK