sci.energy.hydrogen

On Feb 29, 2:41 pm, "Androcles" wrote:
> "Bill Penrose" wrote in message

> You have little faith in technology, and a lot of faith in schoolyard
> | taunting as a way to settle debates. Ann Coulter could use your
> | exquisite talent.

> Ever see how quickly a helium balloon deflates?
> Do you have a clue why?
> I'll tell you. The light gas with the low atomic weight passes
> right through the skin.
> Piping hydrogen out of a desert is the stupidest idea I've
> come across in a long time.
> I'll repeat: I wonder if you have a brain? ?? ??? ???? ?????

Hey, wash my mouth out with soap but Andro is right on, this time. Not
only hydrogen but ALL of the liberal schemes to get us out of the so-
called energy crisis are the stupidest ideas that ANY reasonably
educated person has ever come across.

Hydrogen. Inefficient to make (make some and see how HOT the cells
get!), hard and dangerous to store, light weight molecule with little
energy storage, leaks out of EVERYTHING like mad, Hard to liquify to
get energy density and on and on. Stupid!

Gasahol. Gosh lets' save the world with energy from bio-renewable
corn! Oh I'm SO excited about this! Er except that it takes MORE oil
to generate a gallon of alcohol and gives less energy than if you just
burned the oil in the first place with the added bonus that it sends
food prices through the roof (happening already with just small
production)

Solar power! Yeah, a great idea to any moron who has never OWNED a
real solar cell. Yes, virginial I have one. Yes it's expensive. Yes,
it charges a car battery (at 1 amp rate in bright sun) and you can
calculate that to use solar simply to replace the energy flowing
through ONE major gas station you'd have to cover the state of texas
in solar cells (and that's REAL (means expensive) cells not some
printed amouphous crap that has no idea what conversion efficiency
is.

How about wind power? Well if you could just ring Washington DC with
windmills it just might work! Or maybe attach a windmill to any
liberal kook who really "cares"about "saving the world" using
hydrogen. Otherwise you had better just leave your windmill to fill
the cow's watering tank.

Alright, how about the time-tested water power! Now we are getting
somewhere! Lots of energy and other side benefits such a sflood
control and irrigation! Oh wait, I remember now, most of the major
rivers ALREADY have dams and power stations on them! Duh!

Atomic power: Well who could be against using up all those world-
destroying bombs left over from the cold war? Of course a nuclear
power plant has to be just about THE most primitive "high tech"
installation this side of raiders of the lost arc. Using radiation to
boil water? cripes! But OK, you are getting rid of old bombs! But
there is just one tiny problem: Nuclear waste! The answer is simple.
You find a totally useless area of the planet, you rope it off and you
dump all the crap there! My vote is for Alamaba! (and oddly enough
there are quit a few people actually living in Alabama who would vote
my way as well!

How about we simply stuff a dirty jock strap in the mouth of each
"caring" "world-saving" liberal and let the engineers deal with the
problem. Points:

1. first thing is start conserving oil! Oil is FAR too useful a
chemical raw material to simply be burning it in cars or houses! You
like to eat? Well start thinking about where the fertilizer that
makes the current population levels sustainable comes from. It's oil,
bunky!

2. look at energy sources with a long time to "peak". These would be
first natural Gas and secondly coal. Both these can give us a little
"breathing room" of say up to 300 years to really solve the problem.
BOTH are technologies that are running vehicles RIGHT NOW! Hey our
local gas company runs ALL it's vehicles on natural gas! j And I also
point out that Hitler ran all of WWII on synthetic gasoline from coal.
Seemed to work well enough to make him a royal pain in the ass.
Instead of dreamland projects work should be started right now on
removing the pollutants from coal (No dear, CO2 is NOT one of those
horrible pollutants!)

3. Once we've bought ourselves a little time, we start to work on REAL
solutions, like cold fusion, Tesla scalar rays, or just the right
arrangement of magnets to give us "free energy"!