sci.energy.hydrogen

On Apr 9, 12:53 pm, z wrote:
> On Apr 5, 3:01 am, knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > "This film exposes the hypocrisy of an academic and cultural elite who
> > pretend that they value freedom of inquiry and expression but in fact
> > suppress it when it clashes with their deeply held materialistic
> > convictions," Dembski said. He and other proponents of ID have
> > suggested that the universe shows signs of having been designed by an
> > intelligent being.
> >
>
> "3. The biblical story of the perfect and finished creation from which
> human beings fell into sin is pre-Darwinian mythology and post-
> Darwinian nonsense."
> -A Call for a New Reformation, Bishop John S. Sponghttp://www.dioceseofnewark.org/jsspong/reform.html
>
> Not all who have religion are morons. Nor has that been true in
> history.
>
> The concept that we have to be idiots with an idiotic simplistic view
> of religion to be true believers like our ancestors were, since they
> must have been pretty stupid because they lived long ago, is not
> correct. St. Augustine and Maimonedes, for just two examples off the
> top of my not particularly learned head, both argued against adopting
> simplistic literal interpretation of the scriptures where they were in
> conflict with scientific learning and/or logic.
>
> "It not infrequently happens that something about the earth, about the
> sky, about other elements of this world, about the motion and rotation
> or even the magnitude and distances of the stars, about definite
> eclipses of the sun and moon, about the passage of years and seasons,
> about the nature of animals, of fruits, of stones, and of other such
> things, may be known with the greatest certainty by reasoning or by
> experience, even by one who is not a Christian. It is too disgraceful
> and ruinous, though, and greatly to be avoided, that he [the non-
> Christian] should hear a Christian speaking so idiotically on these
> matters, and as if in accord with Christian writings, that he might
> say that he could scarcely keep from laughing when he saw how totally
> in error they are." - The Literal Interpretation of Genesis, St.
> Augustine.
>
> Note that he in no way felt that this represented any failing in the
> scriptures if their interpretation seemed to clash with science or
> logic; it was a failing of those who were understanding them in an
> obviously incorrect fashion.
>
> That's of course typical of our curent fundamentalists, whatever their
> particular religion; the possibility that their interpretation might
> be wrong is completely unimaginable.
> "The bible says there is no evolution"
> "Uh, that's not what the bible says"
> "You calling the bible a liar, you heathen?!"
> Either they're right, or the bible is wrong; they can't conceive of
> any other possibility. Of course again, that's not the private
> province of fundamentalists, that's typical of idiots of all types.
> And it resonates strongly with today's American "conservative base",
> with its appeal to anti-intellectualism.


http://tbknews.blogspot.com/2008/04/zeitgeist-refuted-not.html

The Horus-Jesus Connection

Rather than relying on the typical shallow "encyclopedia surfing" of
the debunking sites, or scholarship that skims the surface because of
prejudices and occupational concerns, if you would like to get a taste
of deeper and fascinating research on the subject that BACKS UP THE
HORUS CLAIMS OF ZEITGEIST, you will want to read my ebook:

The Companion Guide to ZEITGEIST, Part 1

In this 49-page ebook, I use mostly primary sources and the work of
individuals highly credentialed in their relevant fields. This ebook
shows exactly where some of the most well-known claims regarding the
Egyptian god Horus can be found in ancient testimonies and texts.

If you go to my Zeitgeist page, you will find a series of excerpts
that reveal the quality of the material I am presenting in the Guide.

We are also working on a short video on the subject, likewise
addressing whether or not ZG, Part 1 has been "refuted" or "debunked."
Again, I can assure you that it has not.

In addition, I am also close to finishing a much larger work on the
subject that I've been diligently laboring upon - Christ in Egypt: The
Horus-Jesus Connection. Thoroughly covering every contention found in
ZEITGEIST regarding Horus, Christ in Egypt will be well over 400
pages, with dozens of illustrations and, again, mostly primary sources
and the work of highly credentialed scholars, comprising a
bibliography with over 500 entries. Again, I have managed to dig up
some incredibly exciting and important research!

Many of us are delighted by the amazing success of ZEITGEIST, for the
major reason that it has generated tremendous interest in what I
consider to be some of the most intriguing subjects on the planet -
comparative religion, mythology and astrotheology - but what has
unfortunately been swept under the carpet for too long, in favor of
biased, ethnocentric fallacies reducing the grandeur of the cosmos to
petty fish tales.

If you have an interest in the direction humanity is going, you might
want to know that I believe and hope it is towards a reawakening of
the HIDDEN KNOWLEDGE I and others are bringing to light regarding
religion and mythology - and this new development is another major
step in that direction.

The Companion Guide to ZEITGEIST, Part 1

Thanks - and enjoy!

Acharya S aka D.M. Murdock

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