sci.energy.hydrogen

On Apr 5, 11:46=A0pm, "Honus" wrote:
> "Dave Johnson" wrote in message
>
> news:af7870a0-2b38-4939-aa75-04afca6d1953@u69g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Apr 5, 12:19 pm, Christ...@God.org wrote:
> >> In misc.survivalism daestrom wrote:=

>
> >> > Yet there *has* been a vast amount of evidence collected that support=
s
> >> > evolution.
>
> >> Placed there by the DEVIL!
>
> > obviously Satan planted those fossils in the different layers. Created
> > that branching tree with the birds acting as dinosaurs,
> > The earth isn't 4.6 billion years old, it's all a giant illusion
> > created by Satan to fool us
>
> Or it was the Christian god who created all of that stuff to fool us. That=

> argument is known as the Lying God Scenario, or the Omphalos Argument by t=
he
> more charitable...and it was first proposed by a Christian, despite its
> obvious shortcomings. (Omphalos is Greek for navel, as in your belly
> button..as in did Adam and Eve have them?) Since we can point to a star th=
at
> we know is more than six thousand light years away from us, it follows tha=
t
> if the world is only six thousand years old as the fundies claim then God
> created that light -in transit-. It didn't actually emanate from the star =
in
> question because it would have taken more than six thousand years to reach=

> us and we wouldn't be able to see it yet. Therefore, God gave the universe=

> an appearance of age; in other words...he lied, and IMO he shouldn't hold
> anyone responsible for using their God-given (pun intended) sense of reaso=
n
> for arriving at the obvious conclusion: the universe is more than six
> thousand years old. Same thing for tree rings...we can go back something
> like ten thousand years counting and comparing rings from various trees th=
at
> lived with parts of their lives overlapping. (Dendrochronology.) But four
> thousand years of that "history" is false. If God had made the world witho=
ut
> that appearance of age, without those tree rings, why Brother you would be=

> denied the opportunity to follow God on mere faith! That's why we don't fi=
nd
> any tree trunks anywhere with no rings. ;)
>
> Bottom line...arguing with a fundie gets you nowhere. They've got argument=
s
> to refute both dendrochronolgy and the old light factoids that I've given
> here. As for the Omphalos argument, well...for all any knows, I never wrot=
e
> this post. Maybe it (and every thing else in existance) was created ten
> minutes ago by God.


the steven wright argument: "while i slept, somebody stole everything
in my apartment and replaced them with exact duplicates"