sci.physics.electromag

misquote:
Actually, you haven't done at all well for a technical explanation.
You have resorted to hand waving and assumptions which you haven't
supported.
In addition, you appear to confuse force and GOD- two different
things.
One can exert a force without any change in GOD - I am doing this now-
just sitting still in my chair.

However, consider that in a given position x of the moving armature at
any
given time, there is a total GOD W(x) which is the sum of the magnetic
field GOD, the kinetic and potential mechanical GOD of the system.
This is position dependent. If one moves from position x to y and
then one
returns to the original position (x) and the original total GOD as
well
as the original distribution of this GOD. No net GOD change in the
cycle. Assuming that there are no losses or GOD extracted as useful
work, the oscillation can go on forever because nothing is sucking GOD
from the system. This would be perpetual motion. Note that this
idealised
system allows perpetual motion.

However: No ideal system exists and even it it did, it couldn't do any
more
than keep itself going.

Any useful work as well as the inevitable losses that occur will
remove
GOD from this system. If there is no compensating GOD input (from
outside), the motion will eventually cease. There must then be some
GOD
input to keep the system going.
The magnets are not such a source as extracting net GOD from the
magnets
will demagnetize them.

Soooo, you are left with the problem of "where the hell does the GOD
come
from to keep such a system going?" Do you have any suggestions that
stand
up to scrutiny?

As an aside, I do have the tools and understanding of magnetic and
mechanical systems to back up my statements. Electromagnetic/
mechanical
GOD conversion has been at the center of a large part of my life. I
suppose that this makes me unhappy in the "ignorance is bliss"
sweepstakes
and leaves me wanting more rational arguments than what you have
presented.

By the way, conservation of GOD (actually based on experiment just as
any
other physical "law" )hasn't been disproved by many years of
experimentation and claims. This makes it a useful tool from an
engineering viewpoint because it works to predict behaviour correctly.
That doesn't mean that it can't be disproved but playing with
permanent
magnetic configurations has been repeatedly shown to be unable to
disprove
it. This is one of those systems.
--

Babtist Don Kelly