sci.physics.particle

On Apr 1, 3:08=A0pm, "Y.Porat" wrote:
> On Apr 1, 6:42=A0am, Kumar wrote:
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> > On Mar 31, 10:07=A0am, "Y.Porat" wrote:
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> > > On Mar 30, 10:04=A0am, Kumar wrote:
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> > > > On Mar 30, 11:58=A0am, Kumar wrote:
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> > > > > On Mar 30, 11:37=A0am, "Y.Porat" wrote:> On =
Mar 30, 6:54=A0am, Kumar wrote:
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> > > > > > > Instead, can GF be combined of two forces, one push force by i=
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> > > > > > how =A0can =A0motion =A0cause push according to your guesses ??
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> > > > > Somewhat =A0tornado or whirilpool type inward push.
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> > > > > > > and other by earths magnetic force along with inersteller forc=
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> > > > > > i think you mingel =A0 too many factors
> > > > > > the magnwetic force is many orders of magnitude
> > > > > > stronger than Gravity
> > > > > > and OTHA =A0(note carefully)
> > > > > > **the range** of magnatic force is uncomparably
> > > > > > **shorter* than the Gravitaion force
> > > > > > another differnce between them is
> > > > > > that gravity cannot be screened
> > > > > > while magnetism can be screened
> > > > > > so it is very different 'birds' that i cant see
> > > > > > how they can cooperate
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> > > > > Yes, but I was unable to express atractive force of gravity along =
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> > > > > inward push force because attractive force can also be an magnetic=
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> > > > > inward push due to revolutions.> even masses that has no megnetism=
attract each other
> > > > > > by gravity
> > > > > > so ...........????!!!
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> > > > > It can be common result from all masses in earth. Non-magnetic
> > > > > substances can still have some forces.
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> > > > > > ATB
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> > > > To add;
> > > > "whirlpool =A0(hw=FBrl-)
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> > > > =A0A rapidly rotating current of water; a vortex.
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> > > > Turmoil; whirl.
> > > > A magnetic, impelling force into which one may be pulled.http://www.=
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> > > there is a principal differene between a 'vortex'
> > > and my Circlon idea:
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> > > a vortex is done by =A0alot of material
> > > =A0around it
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> > > the circlon can act even if it is *a single tiny lonely* particle
> > > it moves in a circle because 'that is how it was born'
> > > it is its initial property
> > > it does not need anything external to it
> > > to move in a circle
> > > is that principle understood ??
> > > (it is a parallel /replacing =A0the 'curved space- time idea .....)
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> > > TIA
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> =A0i dont know much about vortex
> but if i undestand correctly
> vortex is keeping in mind a swirrle of water
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> it is involved with a lot of matter taking part
> in order to do it
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> the Circlon OTHA =A0does not need anything except itself
> in order of moving i a circle
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> yes indeed in order of making gravitation it needsd as well
> at least two masses
> but the only 'swirling things there
> are the 'Circlons'
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> those circlons in case of thyem to make atraction
> are not movingjust in a circle
> but in acurved lines **back and forth *
> i hope you get my idea
> back anc forth hitind the rare sides of the involved masses
> more than on theirfron sides
> because at the front they camcel each others action ]
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> the circlon according to me is a particle builder as well !!
> not only a force maker
> it builds the links of the' chain of orbitals'
> so =A0no wonder that those chains =A0are 'loosing' in many cases
> some of their 'circlon property '
> but that loss doe s =A0not get lost to the endless =A0 universe
> because of their circular movement
> they keep on staying somewere =A0 =A0neer by =A0their 'mother '
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> ATB
> Y.Porat
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Are you considering motions of individual particle/mass for gravity
but not the motion of whole earth?