sci.physics.particle

On Mar 29, 6:10=A0am, Kumar wrote:
> On Mar 28, 2:40=A0pm, "Y.Porat" wrote:> On Mar 28, 6=
:24=A0am, Kumar wrote:
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> snip> > Intresting but bit more technical for me. Does it not suggest
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> > yes!
> > i dont have a direct phone to God =A0(:-)
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> =A0Trying to get such idea/knowledge (of prime/one force) may not be
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> > all i cantell you is my private understandings and guesses
> > yet i think i have some long period of folowing scinece
> > and even my private investigations and findings
> > after a long resarch project about the structure of matter
> > that lasted many years
> > so
> > yess
> > i guess that actually all forces arer based on the same simple 'trick'
> > that is why i suggest the 'Circlon' idea :
> > a basic particle that
> > *moved **naturally* in a curved path !!
> > that idea should replace the 'curved space time' idea !!
> > (excuse the arrogance ...)
> > matter spreading nonstop a sort of a fountain
> > of circlons
> > they are epread out but come back because of the
> > corved nature of theit movement
> > and that is btw who attraction force doe snot get lost !!!
> > if it was done by something that moves in straight lines
> > it would ....... guess what??
> > most of them should be lost in case they miss the target
> > yet it does not happen =A0ass an experimantal fact
> > now
> > if two masses are close and each of themis spreading its
> > fountain'
> > there is a situation in which those circlons
> > suround the other mass and hit it from its rare side @!
> > may be some of them from the front side
> > 9the shortest line between the two masses)
> > but those at the front side ((cllide and canceleach other
> > from the opposite side
> > so we get
> > **an unballanced force * that pushes thmmasses
> > close to each other
> > and stronger an stronger as comming closer
> > because in that close distance
> > those 'fountains are thicker !!
> > how about that ??
> > 2
> > another surprising idea"
> > if you folow my chain of orbital idea
> > =A0THE CIRCLON' CAN EXPLAIN THAT CHAIN OF ORBITALS
> > =A0ther very exostance and their beiavious
> > a closed 'fountan ' that conraines a big amput of circlons
> > canbahave like a sort of a solid ring !!!
> > and there you got the chain of orbitals that are
> > more massive at the base (mother orbital)
> > and getting looser and less massive as they get
> > firther away from that motrher orbital
> > (the bundle of mass that moves ina closed circle
> > i s =A0more massive at themother particle aria (volume )
> > since allthe basic particles that make that structre
> > always comes back in a circular movement
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> > another assumption abouth those corclons is that
> > a circlon wil keep it sradius of movement
> > untill and unless it colides with another one
> > (parallel to Newtons forst law of motion
> > but not in a straight line!)
> > anothe imjportant note :
> > a ring od circlons can move ijn a straight line
> > ie
> > if its center of gravity (of the ring) is moving in a stright line
> > or simpler:
> > thecenter of gravity of a ring orbital
> > CAN =A0 \move in straigh tlines
> > even though the movement** in the ring** is circular!! (:-)
> > so =A0for a n =A0 observer from ousde it
> > each circlon there is doing a composit =A0movement
> > how about that ??
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> > TIA
> > Y.Porat
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> Thanks but still more technical.
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> Btw, can we consider GF just as an inward push

yess
i think that any attraction force is
at the ebd of the day a push force
force can be done (att heend of the day
though not always obvious -)**only by collision**
and collision cannot make a pull force !!
so it i sat the end of the day a collision force
'att eh right place and location
or even a **resuly or balace of froces
actually unballanced force )
that is how i use the Cirlon to explain any attractionforce !!
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( tarnado or whirlpool

sort of ...
but not any whirlpool will do it
it must be a special whirlpool
a private case of a whirlpool
but mattwer there is not roattion all of it only in one dorection
there is there
a front and back motion !!!!and **biased**
not isometric motion motion so it ceates
an unballanced force !!
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> type effect) due to earth's motions?-
asi said
just the symetric motion of earth cannot do it
it is in my theory Circlons
from earth and sun (mostly tthose from sun that do it )
moving as i suggested- that do it
btw
if i am right
ther should be a silght differnce in g
between our lighted side
and our 'dark side' fron sun
while rather the lightted side shoud be somewaht weaker??

can it be meaured ??
ie
you take a fixed spot
andsee if there is a slight difference between
g at night and day ????
yet as you immagine
even a slight difference in g multiplied by
a very big aria is a big qauntity

TIA
Y.Porat
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