sci.physics.electromag

On Apr 10, 2:58=A0am, "FrediFizzx" wrote:
> On Apr 9, 6:13 pm, Laurent wrote:
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> > On Apr 6, 1:44 am, "FrediFizzx" wrote:
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> > > "Laurent" wrote in message
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> > >news:854417cb-9999-4e71-ab7b-a7bc9026105a@n1g2000prb.googlegroups.com..=
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> > > > Aether is the empty space on which the Universe sits.
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> > > Well, that doesn't make much sense. =A0You don't help your case much
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> > > a statement like that. =A0Empty space (the void) is the stage that
> > > ether
> > > and *other* quantum objects play on.
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> > > Volovik says it like it is very well in his book "The Universe in a
> > > Helium Droplet" page 461 sect. 33 Conclusion;
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> > > "According to the modern view the elementary particles (electrons,
> > > neutrinos, quarks, etc.) are excitations of some more fundamental
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> > > called the quantum vacuum.
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> > Also know as aether...
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> Whatever; no since haggling over a name.
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> > > This is the new ether of the 21st century.
> > > The electromagnetic and gravitational fields, as well as the fields
> > > transferring the weak and the strong interactions, all represent
> > > different types of collective motion of the quantum vacuum."
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> > The quantum vacumm moves? Isn't it a void, as in 'not matter'? How can
> > an immaterial substance move?
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> The quantum "vacuum" as a relativistic medium would not be a void but
> exists in the void of empty space. =A0Not necessarily an "immaterial
> substance" either. =A0But also not matter.
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> > > Most likely we just don't know what all the quantum objects are yet.
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> > > their possible interactional configurations. =A0Hopefully we will get
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> > > more clues after the LHC has been running for awhile.
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> > The quantum refers to a quantum of energy, in other words, an amount
> > of energy... the smallest amount of energy as far as we know.
> > Information (geometry) starts with the quantum. Existence starts with
> > the quantum. Before the quantum there is the aether. There can be an
> > aether without quanta but there can be no quanta without an aether.
> > The aether is before matter and it is dimensionless, like a point...
> > yet, it contains the Universe.
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> Not necessarily. =A0What if the quantum "vacuum" (aether) is composed of
> quanta in some kind of a neutral configuration?
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> Best,
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> Fred Diether
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Aether is before the CMBR also.

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Laurent