humanities.lit.authors.shakespeare

>>> "bobgrum...@nut-n-but.net" >>>>
>>>> You are the only one I know of here who claims that no one presents
>>>> evidence or ideas or arguments against his position. I have never
>>>> made that claim. I now state that you have presented ideas, evidence
>>>> and arguments against my position, and so have many other wacks.
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>> "Ms. Mouse" wrote:
>>>
>>> If you are referring to me also as a wack, Bob, please don't.
>>> On the other hand, I have no objection to your calling
>>> yourself one, as you appear to have done. ;)
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> "bobgrum...@nut-n-but.net" wrote:
>>
>> Yep, "many other wacks" explicitly refers to me, implicitly
>> refers to Paul, and suggests others unnamed, Mouse.
>> But you really need to get over your hypersensitivity to names.

"Ms. Mouse" wrote:
>
> You really have to get over your name-calling, wabbit. ;)
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_TRUE Reportory of the *WRACK*, and Redemption
=2E of Sir Thomas Gates Knight_
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*WRACK*, WRECK, n. A name given to a marine plant which is of great
utility as a manure. It is called sometimes *sea-WRACK* or sea-wreck,
and sea-oak and sea-tangle. It is the *FUCUS* vesiculosus of Linne, a
plant found on rocks left dry at low water. The stalk runs along the
middle of the leaf, and is terminated by watery BLADDERS.
=2E..............................................
<*seaWRACK* ,
the nearing tide, that rusty boot. . . Shut your eyes and see. Stephen
closed his eyes to hear his boots crush cRACKling *WRACK* and shells.
You are walking through it howsomEVER. I am, a stride at a time.
A VERy short space of time through VERy short times of space.
Five, six: the nacheinander.

Exactly: and that is the ineluctable modality of the audible.

Open your eyes. No. Jesus!
If I fell OVER a cliff that beetles o'er his base
=2E . .Am I walking into eternity along SANDYmount Strand?>>
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*WRACK* (?), n. A thin, flying cloud; a *RACK* .
=2E.............................................
http://www.sirbacon.org/gallery/west.htm
=2E
=2E "The Cloud cupt Tow'rs,
=2E The Gorgeous Palaces
=2E The Solemn Temples,
=2E The Great Globe itself
=2E Yea all which it Inherit,
=2E Shall Dissolue;
And like the baseless FnBRICK of a Vision
=2E Leave not a *WRECK* behind."
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*WRACK*, n. [OE. wrak wreck]

Wreck; ruin; destruction. [Obs.] Chaucer. A world devote to *UNIVERSal
WRACK*." Milton.
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*RACK*, n. [See Wreck.] A wreck; destruction. [Obs., except in a few
phrases.] *RACK* and ruin, destruction; utter ruin. [Colloq.] -- To go
to *RACK*, to perish; to be destroyed. [Colloq.] All goes to *RACK*."
Pepys.
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*RACK*, n. [Prob. fr. Icel. rek drift, motion, and akin to reka to
drive, and E. *WRACK*, wreck. .] Thin, flying, broken clouds, or any
portion of floating vapor in the sky. Shak.
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The winds in the upper region, which move the clouds above, which we
call the *RACK*, . . . pass without noise. Bacon.
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*RACK*, n. [AS. hracca neck, hinder part of the head; cf. AS. hraca
throat, G. rachen throat, E. retch.] The neck and spine of a fore
quarter of veal or mutton.
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*RACK*, n. A fast amble.
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*RACK*, n. [Probably fr. D.rek, rekbank, a *RACK*, rekken to stretch;
akin to G. reck, reckbank, a *RACK*, recken to stretch, Dan. r=E6kke,
Sw. r=E4cka, Icel. rekja to spread out, Goth. refrakjan to stretch out;
cf. L. porrigere, Gr. . Cf. Right, a., Ratch.]
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1. An instrument or frame used for stretching, extending, retaining,
or displaying, something. Specifically: (a) An engine of torture,
consisting of a large frame, upon which the body was gradually
stretched until, sometimes, the joints were dislocated; -- formerly
used judicially for extorting confessions from criminals or suspected
persons.
=2E
During the troubles of the fifteenth century, a *RACK* was introduced
into the Tower, and w.as occasionally used under the plea of political
necessity. Macaulay.

(b) An instrument for bending a bow. (c) A grate on which bacon is
laid. (d) A frame or device of various construction for holding, and
preventing the waste of, hay, grain, etc., supplied to beasts. (e) A
frame on which articles are deposited for keeping or arranged for
display; as, a clothes *RACK*; a bottle *RACK*, etc. (f) (Naut.) A
piece or frame of wood, having several sheaves, through which the
running rigging passes; -- called also *RACK* block. Also, a frame to
hold shot. (g) (Mining) A frame or table on which ores are separated
or washed. (h) A frame fitted to a wagon for carrying hay, straw, or
grain on the stalk, or other bulky loads. (i) A distaff.
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2. (Mech.) A bar with teeth on its face, or edge, to work with those
of a wheel, pinion, or worm, which is to drive it or be driven by it.
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3. That which is extorted; exaction. [Obs.] Sir E. Sandys. Mangle
*RACK*. (Mach.) See under Mangle. n. -- *RACK* block. (Naut.) See def.
1 (f), above. -- *RACK* lashing, a lashing or binding where the rope
is tightened, and held tight by the use of a small stick of wood
twisted around. -- *RACK* rail (Railroads), a toothed *RACK*, laid as
a rail, to afford a hold for teeth on the driving wheel of locomotive
for climbing steep gradients, as in ascending a mountain. -- *RACK*
saw, a saw having wide teeth. -- *RACK* stick, the stick used in a
*RACK* lashing. -- To be on the *RACK*, to suffer torture, physical or
mental. -- To live at *RACK* and manger, to live on the best at
another's expense. [Colloq.] -- To put to the *RACK*, to subject to
torture; to torment.
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A fit of the stone puts a kingto the *RACK*, and makes him as
miserable as it does the meanest subject. Sir W. Temple.
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*RACK*, n. [Eng. to reach. See Reach and Break.]
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1. An engine of torture, used for extorting confessions from criminals
or suspected persons.
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2. Torture; extreme pain; anguish.
=2E
A fit of the stone puts a king to the *RACK* and makes him as
miserable as it does the meanest subject.
=2E
3. Any instrument for stretching or extending any thing; as a *RACK*
for bending a bow.
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4. A grate on which *BACON* is laid.
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5. A wooden frame of open work in which hay is laid for horses and
cattle for feeding.
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6. The frame of bones of an animal; a skeleton. We say, a *RACK* of
bones.
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7. A frame of timber on a ship''s bowsprit.
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*RACK*, n. [for *arRACK*] Among the Tartars, a spirituous liquor
=2E made of mare''s milk which has become sour and is then distilled.
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=2E Greek political satires were written that ridiculed
=2E Pericles' non-aristocratic successor:
=2E the war-mongering demagogue CLEON.
=2E
thE WaSPS [SPHEKES] (422 BC) by Philonides
thE KnigHts (424 BC) by Aristophanes
thE AchARnians (425 BC) by Callistratus
=2E
But to be honest,
Philonides & Callistratus were pseudonym/front men
used by Aristophanes. Aristophanes wasn't able to hide behind
a pseudonym in _The Knights_ because Aristophanes, himself,
was forced to play the CLEON character (a scheming
Paphlagonian LEATHER-MONGER) after everyone else refused.
(We know that this character was intended to be CLEON
because CLEON's father Cleaenetus was, in fact, a TANNER.)
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=2E Pericles (Act 5, Scene 3)
=2E
GOWER: At Tarsus, and by CLEON train'd
=2E In music, letters; who hath gain'd
=2E Of education all the grace,
=2E Which makes her both the heart and place
=2E Of general wonder. But, alack,
=2E That MONSTER ENVY, oft the *WRACK*
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http://tinyurl.com/2md4x2
http://tinyurl.com/2qdq35
=2E
Volker Multhopp makes a strong case for
William Strachey's (Jul 15, 1610) letter
=2E
_TRUE Reportory of the *WRACK*, and Redemption
=2E of Sir Thomas Gates Knight_
=2E
being: "a sham. . .
=2E
The letter wasn't written 1610, it was written in 1625,
specifically for publication in Hakylut's Navigations, Voyages,
and Discoveries. The author shamelessly cribbed
the letter straight out of the First Folio (1623),"
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=2E [Henry the Sixth, Part Two (Folio) 1.3]
=2E
Suff.: Since thou wert King; as who is King, but thou?
=2E The Common-wealth hath dayly run to *WRACK*,
=2E The Dolphin hath preuayl'd beyond the Seas,
=2E And all the Peeres and Nobles of the Realme
=2E Haue beene as Bond-men to thy Soueraigntie.
=2E
Card. The Commons hast thou RACKt, the Clergies Bags
=2E Are lanke and leane with thy Extortions.

Som. Thy sumptuous Buildings, and thy Wiues Attyre
=2E Haue cost a masse of publique Treasurie.
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=2E Sonnet 126
=2E
=2E O thou my lovely Boy who in thy power,
=2E Dost hold Time's fickle glass, his sickle hour:
=2E Who hast by waning grown, and therein show'st,
=2E
[T]hy lovers withering, as thy sweet self grow'st.
[I]f Nature sOVEREign mistress OVER *WRACK*
[A]s thou goest onwards still will pluck thee back,
[S]he keeps thee to this purpose, that her skill
=2E
[M]ay time disgrace, and wretched minutes kill.
[Y]et fear her O thou minion of her pleasure,
=2E
=2E She may detain, but not still keep her treasure!
=2E Her Audit (though delayed) answered must be,
=2E And her Quietus is to render thee.
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(1594) Foure Epytaphes, made by the Countes of Oxenford,
after the death of her young Sonne, the Lord Bulbecke, &c.
=2E
[I]dall, for Adon, nev'r shed so many teares:
[N]or Thet', for Pelid: nor Phoebus, for Hyacinthus
[N]or for *ATIS*, the mother of Prophetesses
[A]t the brute of it, the Aphroditan Queene,
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T O T H E.O.N L I E_ B E G E T_[T]E R O F T H
E S E I N S V I N G *S O N N E*[T]S M R W H A
L L H A P P I N E S [S] E A N D[T]H A T E T E
R N I T I E P R O M [I] S E D B Y O V R E V E
R L I V I N G P O.E.[T] W I S H E T H T H E W
E L L W I S H I N G [A] D V E N T V R E R I N
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[K]nowing thy heart torments me with disdain,
[I]f Nature, sovereign mistress over *WRACK*,
[T]o weigh how once I suffered in your crime.
[M]ine eye well knows what with his gust is 'greeing,
[A]nd peace proclaims olives of endless age.
[R]eturn, forgetful Muse, and straight redeem
[L]ike a deceived husband; so love's face
[O]f faults conceal'd, wherein I am attainted,
[W]hen others would give life and bring a TOMB.
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http://shakespeareauthorship.com/cipher/bmarlowe1.html
=2E
=2E <=3D 12 =3D>
=2E
137 T T T Y I B(W)W W W O T
136 I S A T W I(I)A T T F T
135 W A M T W N(S)A T A S O
134 S A M[T]B F(H)V T T A S
133 B F[I]B M A[O]A P B W T
132 T[K]H L A B[N]D A O T A
131 T A F T Y T(T)A A A O T
130 M C[I I}I B(A)T I T I M
129 T I{I}S I P(P)O M H A B
128 H V W[T]D{T)W A T A O M
127 I O B A F F S B T H A S
126 O D W{T|I]A S M Y S H A
125 W W O W H L F P N A W B
124 Y I A W N I V W I W B T
123 N T T T O W A T T N F M
122 T F W B O H T O T N T T
121 T W A N F G O W N A I B
120 T A N V F A A[T]O M A T
119 W D A S W W H I O T A G
118 L W A W E T A T T T A W
117 A W F W T A T W B A B B
116 L A W O O T I W L W L B
115 T E Y M B C T D A M W C
114 O D O A T S C A O A[M]A
113 S A D S F O O N F T T T
112 Y W F S Y T N T I O T M
111 O T T T T A T P W P N N
110 A A G M M A T A N M O A
109 O T A A T L I S N A T T
108 W W W T N I C E S W N B
107 N O C S T A I[A]N M S W
106 W I A I T O I E S O A T
105 L N S T K S T O F F A T
104 T F S H T I T S A S S H
103 A T T T O L T D W T F T
102 M I T T O W A A N T B A
101 O F B S M T B B B E T A
100 W T S D[R]I S A R I I A
=2E99 T S I W I T A T O A A B
=2E98 F W H T Y O C O N N T D
=2E97 H F W W A T B L Y B F A
=2E96 S S B T A T S T H I H I
=2E95 H W D O T M C N O W W A
=2E94 T T W V T A T O T T B T
=2E93 S[L]M T F T I I B T W T
=2E92 B F A F T W I T T S O H
=2E91 S S S S A W B A T R O A
=2E90 T N I A A C G T I W B A
=2E89 S A S A T T A I B T L A
=2E88 W A V A W V[O]T A F T D
=2E87 F A T M F A T A T O S C
=2E86 W B T M W A N G H W A I
=2E85 M W R A I A T I H A B T
=2E84 W T I W L T B T L N A M
=2E83 I A I T A T H S T W F[W]
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Recalculated for first 12 lines:
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*KITM-MARL-LOW* probability ~ 1/760
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Consider the "Bull Sonnets Acrostic Array" at Terry's site:
http://shakespeareauthorship.com/cipher/bmarlowe1.html
=2E
Use a 'String Find' to count (in first 12 columns):
=2E
=2E 4 K's
=2E 68 M's
=2E 41 L's
=2E
=2E This automatically gives:
=2E
=2E 4 x 68 "K-M" pairs and
=2E 68 x 41 "M-L" pairs
=2E
However, each "K**M" or "M**L" 4 LETTER string
must be separated by multiples of 3 rows & 3 columns
=2E
Hence, the [E]xpected [V]alue number of interesting
=2E "K**M" or "M**L" 4 LETTER strings
=2E in the Bull array
=2E
=2E "K**M" E.V.: ~ 4*68/(3*3) ~ 30
=2E "M**L" E.V.: ~ 67*41/(3*3) ~ 305
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Now use 'String Find' {e.g., on "I T" & "T I"}
=2Eto count (for whole 14 lines):
=2E
50 "IT"s (left right pairs out of ~ 4000)
=2E8 "AR"s (left right pairs out of ~ 4000)
31 "OW"s (left right pairs out of ~ 4000)
=2E
=2E "IT" probability: 50/4000
=2E "AR" probability: 8/4000
=2E "OW" probability: 31/4000
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=2E Now applying the
=2E
"IT" prob: 50/4000 =3D 1/80
"AR" prob: 8/4000 =3D 1/500
=2E
=2E to the [E]xpected [V]alue of interesting
=2E "K**M" or "M**L" 4 LETTER strings
=2E
gives [E]xpected [V]alue of
=2E
=2E "KITM" E.V. =3D 30 / 80
=2E "MARL" E.V.=3D 305 / 500
=2E
Hence one would be lucky to expect ONE of each
(which presumeably is what Peter Bull found)
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However, one would NOT expect these
=2E two (expected) 4 LETTER strings:
"KITM" & "MARL" to share the SAME "M"!
=2E
=2E For these two strings to share the SAME "M"
=2E
"KITM-MARL" E.V.: 30*305/(80*500*68) ~ 1/297
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The additional of "LOW" adds a little bit more to this:
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Given the prior spacings in "KITM" & "MARL"
it would be reasonable to look for the "O"
=2E of the "OW" pair in one of 62 positions:
=2E
=2E [L]M T F T I I
=2E F A F T W I T
=2E S S S A W B A
=2E N I A A C G T
=2E A S A T T A I
=2E A V A W V[O]T
=2E A T M F A T A
=2E B T M W A N G
=2E W R A I A T I
=2E
Only one "[O]W" is found out of 62.
=2E
=2E How does this compare with and
=2E expected "OW" prob: ~31/4000?
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=2E Fisher's Exact Test
http://www.matforsk.no/ola/fisher.htm
=2E
=2E TABLE =3D [ 1 , 61 , 31 , 3970 ]
2-Tail : p-value =3D 0.38980385512773885
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=2E So the [E]xpected [V]alue of
=2E the final "OW" is ~0.39
=2E
"KITM-MARL-LOW" probability: 0.39/297 ~ 1/760
=2E
A respectable if not overly impressive number in itself.
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=2E Now things get interesting:
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____*OXENFORD*
=2E
____*R.O. : FOX DEN*
____*R(osicrucian) O(rder) : FOX DEN*
=2E
_______4 *KITs*
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=2E "KITM-MARL-LOW" + 4 close "KIT"s probability?
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Peter Bull points out:
=2E
<<1 The beginning of the message is very clearly signposted. The
K forming the first letter of the message is the starting point of no
less than five regularly formed KITs, one of which appears in adjacent
squares and all of which are straight-line examples, with left to
right orientation and tight letter spacing. This KIT node is 'highly
anomalous' in the grid. It is eye-catching. Its occurence is highly
unlikely to be the product of random forces.
=2E
2. The line of the message as it unfolds from the initial K is
also indicated because the KITM of the first section is exactly
superimposed on a seperate KIT line. This is a signal of its
intentionality. It is an anomaly compounded.>>
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So what about the four other "regularly formed KITs"
=2E
=2E The pertinent I's lie within the 25 spaces
=2E of a half-diamond surrounding the K in "KITM":
=2E
=2E S
=2E A M
=2E A M[T]
=2E F[I]B M
=2E [K]H L A B
=2E A F T Y
=2E C[I I}
=2E I{I}
=2E V [T] {T}
=2E
=2E {T}
=2E
=2E So 4 of these 25 spaces produce
=2E the "I" for a "KIT" while 19 do not
=2E [; ignoring the "K" & "T"]
=2E
Compare this with the 50 "IT"s found in ~ 4000
=2E left right pairs in the "Bull array":
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=2E Fisher's Exact Test
http://www.matforsk.no/ola/fisher.htm
=2E
=2E TABLE =3D [ 4 , 19 , 50 , 3950 ]
2-Tail : p-value =3D 0.00021257190299677967
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Therefore there is only ~ 1/4700!! probability
=2E for this close clustering of 4 "KIT"s!
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Hence, the chance of "KITM-MARL-LOW"
=2E PLUS 4 close "KIT"s
=2E
=2E ~ 1/(760 x 4700) ~1/3,600,000!!!
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http://www.masoncode.com/Great%20Seal%20Sonnets.htm

As an Oxfordian the base 17 pyramid is ideal!
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A nice pattern emerges if
the sonnets are written out in
boustrophedon "ox path" style:
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*Under a STAR-Y-pointing PYRAMID* -- Milton (1630)
=2E
---------- *SONET EYES*
=2E..
---------------- * 154
--------------- 0 0 153
-------------- 0 * * 151
------------- 0 * * * 148
------------ 0 0 Y * * 144
----------- 0 * 0 * * * 139
---------- 0 * * 0 * 0 0 133
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--------- * * * * 0 * 0 * 125
-------- * * * * 0 0 * * * 117
------- * * 0 * 0 * * * * * 108
------ 0 * * * * 0 * 0 * * * 98
----- * * * * 0 * 0 * * 0 * * 87
---- * * * * * * 0 * * * * * * 75
--- 0 0 * * * * 0 0 * * * * * 0 62
-- * * * * * * * * * 0 * * 0 0 * 48
- 0 * 0 0 0 * * * 0 0 0 * * 0 * 0 33
. 0 0 * * 0 * 0 * 0 * * * * 0 * 0 0 17
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What needs my Shakespeare for his honour'd bones,
The labour of an age in piled *STONES* ,
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_____*STONES*
_____{anagram}
_____*SONETS*
=2E....................................
Or that his hallow'd relics should be hid
*Under a STAR-Y-pointing PYRAMID* ?
Dear son of memory, great heir of fame,
What need'st thou such weak witness of thy name?
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Art Neuendorffer