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On Mar 9, 5:39 pm, Lyra wrote:

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The Minstrels Gallery, Old Gwernyfed.

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>
> The "Latest discoveries" post in the blog
> now has 5 items -
>
> I've added 3 more interesting items today.
>
> They show beyond question the very close links
> of the families of Trebarried, Gwernyfed and Whitney-on-Wye -
>
> (Vaughans, Williams', and Whitneys)
>
> and the Herberts, Earls of Pembroke (and Powys).
>
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> (quote)
>
> Latest discoveries ...
>
> 1. The Vaughan family
>
> (quote, excerpts)
>
> The Morgans also give the derivation of the surname Vaughan to
> illustrate the influence of English customs on a family located in a
> bilingual border area.
>
> "The first great Vaughan family is located in Bredwardine, Hereford.
> The name of this family has its origins in the Welsh epithet Fychan ,
> attached to the name of Rhosier .... who was killed protecting the
> body of Henry V at the battle of Agincourt in 1415. This Rhosier's
> father was Rhosier, therefore the father had to be Rhosier Hen 'the
> Old' and the son Rhosier Fychan, i.e. 'Young Roger'. Rhosier's sons
> (not all) are called Fychan or Vaughan, and it is fairly clear that
> Vaughan in this generation had become the surname."
> The first known member of this Cardiganshire family to bear the name
> was Llywelyn Fychan, born around the year 1250).
>
> "Welsh Surnames" by T.J. Morgan and Prys Morgan. (University of Wales
> Press, 1985, ISBN 0-7083-0936-4).
>
> http://www.data-wales.co.uk/names.htm
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> 2. The Williams family
>
> Henry WILLIAMS
>
> Birth: Abt 1570
> Of Gwernevet, Breconshire, Wales
>
> Death: 21 Oct 1636
> Gwernevet, Breconshire, Wales
> Burial:
> Breconshire, Wales
>
> Father: David WILLIAMS
> Mother:
>
> m. Eleanor WHITNEY
> Marriage: Bef 1607
>
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> David WILLIAMS
>
> Birth: Abt. 1544
> Of Gwernevet, Breconshire, Wales
>
> Death: 22 Jan 1612/1613
>
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> 3. The Vaughan family, and their link to the Whitneys of Whitney.
>
> (quote, excerpts)
>
> The best known of the line was Sir Roger Vaughan, of Bredwardine,
> Herefordshire, who fell in the battle of Agincourt, and was, like his
> neighbour
> and father-in-law, Sir david Gam, vainly knighted by Henry V. while
> dying on the field.
>
> The house of the Vaughans,
> now a farmhouse in the village of Tre-twr,
> is generally overlooked by searchers after the antiquarian and
> picturesque.
> Leland calls it "the faire place of Henry Vehan, Esq."
>
> Vaughans of Trebarried.
>
> The Vaughans of Trebarried were a branch of those of Tre'rtwr
> (Tretower), deriving as Vaughans from "Roger Vaughan of Talgarth," and
> son,
>
> according to the St. Mark's Coll. MS., of Sir Roger of Tre'rtwr, son
> of the first knight (of Agincourt)
> of that name.
>
> Maternally they were derived from a Norman line, the mother of the
> first Vaughan (Roger)
> of Trebarried
> being dau. and co-heiress of Robert Whitney, Esq.,
> commonly called Lord Whitney,
> and back in direct line to "Roger de Montgomery, Earl of Belesmo" in
> Normandy,
> who "came into England with William the Conqueror," and so on, as
> usual.
>
> from
>
> Annals and Antiquities of the Counties and County Families of Wales
>
> Old families of British origin.
>
> http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=3DM34ystsNDn8C&pg=3DPA95&lpg=3DPA95
> &dq=3Dvaughan+trebarried+whitney&source=3Dweb&ots=3DI5zSVQyY8h&sig=3DSFAN
> aPe95vvHKu-ZhPaX2gvqfZg&hl=3Den
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> 4.
>
> One of the links of the Vaughans and Herberts.
>
> (quote, excerpts)
>
> VAUGHAN family, of Hergest , Kington , Herefords.
>
> The first of the Vaughans to reside here was THOMAS AP ROGER VAUGHAN,
> son of Roger Vaughan of Bredwardine, who was killed at Agincourt (see
> Vaughan family of Bredwardine). His mother was Gwladys, daughter of
> Dafydd Gam (q.v.).
>
> He was, therefore, a full brother of Watkin Vaughan of Bredwardine,
> and Sir Roger Vaughan of Tretower (see Vaughan family of Tretower),
>
> and a uterine brother of Sir William Herbert, earl of Pembroke (q.v.),
> and of Sir Richard Herbert.
>
> http://yba.llgc.org.uk/en/s-VAUG-HER-1400.html
>
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> 5. More Whitney family tree.
>
> (quote)
>
> Archive:Limbus Patrum Morganiae
>
> From WRG
>
> G. T. CLARK, Limbus patrum Morgani=A9=A1 et Glamorgani=A9=A1 (London: Wyma=
n &
> Sons, 1886).
>
> Index: 0 Touchet; 1 Whitney (only), Eustace, p. 248
>
> pp. 241
>
> "XV. Sir ROGER VAUGHAN of Parthaml in Talgarth, M.P. for
> Brecknockshire 1547, 1662, 54, 1558. Knighted about 1550.
>
> Second son of Sir Roger of Tretower and Denise Vaughan.
>
> He had a grant of Bronllys Castle.
>
> He m. 1st Eleanor, eldest d. of Henry Somerset, Earl of Worcester, and
> sister of Lady Mansel;
>
> and 2nd Jane, d. of Robert ap (son of) Sir Robert Whitney of Whitney
> by Constance Touchet, his second wife,
>
> with whom Sir Roger had lands in Talgarth (this is unclear - did
> Robert ap Sir Robert m. 2nd Constance Touchet and hold lands or was it
> actually (as stated) Sir Roger?).
>
> They had: 1. Watkin. 2. Thomas of Tregunter, m. Elizabeth, d. of Harry
> Miles of Poston. They had William Vaughan father of (a) William
>
> (b) Sybil, m. William ap Harry (from Vaughan of Porthaml) of
> Trebarried;
>
> William was father Hugh Vaughan of Trebarried, living 1623.
>
> 3. Henry Vaughan of Bronllys.
> 4. Elizabeth, m. Thomas Morgan of Machen.
> 5. a dau., m. Jenkin ap Tomas Prosser of Aberllyfni.
> 6. Eleanor, m. 1st Howel of Argoed, called also Howel ap Gwilim Powel
> of Brecon. His first wife was Margaret d. of William ap John Havard,
> by whom he had Thomas Powel,
>
> who m. Sybil, d. of Sir William Vaughan, Kt.
>
> Eleanor m. 2nd Thomas ap Rytherch of Lliwell.
>
> 7. Joan, m. William Morgan of the Friars, Newport.
>
> He (Sir Roger Vaughan) had also of base children: 8. Robert Vaughan of
> Bronllys. 9. Robert Vaughan of Tregunter. 10. Thomas Vaughan of
> Trepicca. 11. a dau., m. Thomas ap Robert of Maesglas."
>
> pp. 248.
>
> sub VAUGHAN - unplaced entries.
>
> "Eustace Whitney of Whitney m. Margaret, d. and co-h. of William
> Vaughan of Glasbury, and had SIR ROBERT WHITNEY of Whitney, and
> others."
>
> http://wiki.whitneygen.org/wrg/index.php/Archive:Limbus_Patrum_Morganiae
>
> Blog Archive
>
> * =A1=E5 2008 (12)
> o =A1=E5 March (12)
> + Shakespeare's Welsh cave ... and more ...
> + Did Shakespeare write "A Midsummer Night's
> Dream" ...
> + A summing up (for those without time to read the
> r...
> + First thoughts on the BBC ideas from Powys
> + Gwernyfed
> + Rhydspence inn, Whitney on Wye
> + Shakespeare's Caves
> + Trebarried in Wales
> + Vaughan of Golden Grove
> + Vaughan Whitney marriage
> + Williams of Gwernyfed
> + Latest discoveries ...
>
> http://shakespeares-welsh-cave.blogspot.com/2008/03/latest-discoverie...
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> > Shakespeare's Cave - did he visit Wales?
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> > The interesting stories that may tell of a visit to Wales
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> > may be read at the blog
>
> >http://shakespeares-welsh-cave.blogspot.com/2008/03/shakespeares-wels...
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> >http://shakespeares-welsh-cave.blogspot.com/
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> > I am looking for any more that may be known about it.
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> > As is the way of blogs, the posts start at the end of the page -
> > i.e. kind of upside-down -
> > I may transfer to a webpage for this reason...
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