humanities.lit.authors.shakespeare

On Mar 27, 7:19=C2=A0pm, "John W. Kennedy" wrote:
> Greg Reynolds wrote:
> > On Mar 27, 7:17 am, Tom Reedy wrote:
> >> On Mar 23, 3:56 pm, ben-Jonson wrote:
>
> >>> On Mar 23, 3:09 pm, Elizabeth wrote:
> >>>> rstritmat...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>> On Mar 20, 11:30=EF=BF=BDpm, Tom Reedy wrote:
> >>>>>> On Mar 20, 11:03 pm, Elizabeth wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Food for thought:
> >>>> How many decades did Freud and his ridiculous
> >>>> unscientific theories reign supreme in medical
> >>>> schools, Roger.
> >>>> Freud's 'science' had less science in it than
> >>>> Goldilock's empirical testing of the porridge, the
> >>>> chairs and the beds. =C2=A0This one is too hot, this one
> >>>> is too cold, this one is just right. Freud couldn't
> >>>> get that far.
> >>>> Since Freud and Looney shill their theories in
> >>>> the same form of romantic Victorian brain-
> >>>> entraining rhetoric, it's no wonder that ex-Freudians fall right into=

> >>>> line behind Looney.
> >>>> It's involuntary.
> >>>> If Freudianism can be thoroughly debunked,
> >>>> Looney is next because every Looney claim
> >>>> is not only ridiculous on the face of it, nothing
> >>>> is supported by FACT.
> >>>> In rhetoric we call this a narrative unsupported
> >>>> by evidence.
> >>>> I'm writing a post on the hard marriage law
> >>>> in Romeo and Juliet yet we are supposed to
> >>>> believe that a feudal twelve year old, one who
> >>>> was never called a genius (in his life), wrote
> >>>> Romeo and Juliet to bring attention =C2=A0to the
> >>>> post-Tridentine crisis in marriage law?
> >>>> How insane is this?
> >>>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0(1562), "The Tragical History of Romeus and
> >>>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0Juliet" proposed by Ogburn to be a CHILDHOOD
> >>>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0work of Oxford, under the pseudonym Arthur
> >>>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0Brooke.
> >>>> We know from Oxford's letters to Cecil ca 1600
> >>>> that Oxford knew nothing about law, he let an
> >>>> inhieritance of a hundred manners slip through his
> >>>> hands because he couldn't follow the process.
> >>>> Yet the author of theShakespeareworks writes
> >>>> three plays about the crises in marriage law, each
> >>>> play illustrating =C2=A0one of the three contradictory forms of Engli=
sh
> >>>> marriage (Taming, Measure and
> >>>> (R & J).
> >>>> This author =C2=A0not only KNOWS law he knew
> >>>> how to make it the basis of his plots. Brian
> >>>> Jay Corrigan, PhD, J.D., shows that Antony
> >>>> & Cleopatra is PLOTTED OVER, =C2=A0the Statute
> >>>> of Uses. =C2=A0The Statute of Uses features in nearly
> >>>> all theShakespeareplays yet this is the very Statute that cost
> >>>> Oxford, who didn't have a clue about what was going on at the hearing=

> >>>> before
> >>>> the Board of Escheaters, his Danvers escheat
> >>>> to one of the finest fiefs in England.
> >>>> I am personally sorry that Oxford was deprived
> >>>> of his rightful inheritance because Oxford changed
> >>>> at the end of his life, but Danvers had used the
> >>>> 'use' to tie up his hundred manors knowing =C2=A0that he
> >>>> was going to commit treason.
> >>>> The Queen only used her vassal Oxford to seize the estates.
> >>>> Depressing especially since Oxford was by then a changed man, no doub=
t
> >>>> thanks to his highly intelligent Catholic wife.
> >>>> Francis, Lord Verulam (his proper name), wrote his
> >>>> Double Reader (post-graduate degree) on the Statute of Uses, his
> >>>> Reading on the Statute of Uses still appears in law school syllabi.
> >>>> Oxfordians have never been introduced to the
> >>>> historical =C2=A0Oxford. =C2=A0Oxford was a feudal earl, the
> >>>> Shakespeareworks are English Reformation and
> >>>> all the plays focus on reform.
> >>>> In his Cogita et Visa,Verulam states that he
> >>>> will write 'productions for the people,and that
> >>>> those productions will pit morality against the human passions. He
> >>>> adds that there will be
> >>>> those who will 'try to imitate these productions
> >>>> but will fail.'
> >>>> Do you wonder why the plays are so stuffed
> >>>> with law?
> >>>> And incidently, that's the Protestant Anne Cecil's
> >>>> Geneva Bible. =C2=A0What Kathman calls 'a juvenile hand'
> >>>> is HER =C2=A0juvenile hand. =C2=A0Oxford was R.C. and that
> >>>> bible was at the top of the Index of the Council of
> >>>> Trent. =C2=A0By the post-Tridentine reforms of the 1570s
> >>>> Oxford was permitted to read a Catholic =C2=A0translation
> >>>> of the New Testament, in fact he gave Erasmus'
> >>>> translation =C2=A0to Cecil as an engagement gift. A slap
> >>>> in the face to a Calvinist Puritan and a portent of tragedies to come=
.
> >>>>>http://www.princeton.edu/paw/web_exclusives/plus/plus_031908wegeman.h=
...text -
> >>>> - Show quoted text -
> >>> For the record, I have as little interest, Elizabeth, in responding to=

> >>> your baiting as you apparently do in understanding the significance of=

> >>> Dr. Waugamun's participation in the authorship question.
> >> I daresay it is at least as important as the significance of Harvard's
> >> Professor of Psychiatry John E. Mack's participation in the belief of
> >> space alien abductions. In fact, I'd have a hard time saying which is
> >> more important.
>
> >>> I posted the link as a notice to those here who may wish to take
> >>> notice of the fact that Shakespearean orthodoxy is continuing to lose
> >>> the battle for the hearts and minds of the wider anglo-American
> >>> intelligentsia.
> >> If by intelligentsia you mean the uninformed, gullible public, I
> >> suppose you're right, but if by that term you mean the class of people
> >> who engage in complex mental and creative labor, I doubt that very
> >> seriously.
>
> >>> For those interested in more about who Dr. Waugaman is, here is his
> >>> google scholar portfolio:
> >>>http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=3Dr+waugaman&hl=3Den&lr=3D&safe=3Do=
ff&sta...
> >> I checked it out and didn't see any literary credentials at all. OTOH,
> >> I say an interesting article concerning patients with borderline
> >> personality disorder. I wonder if he might be listening a bit too
> >> closely to the literary opinions of his patients.
>
> >>> That's all I have to say.
> >> Until the next earth-shaking development within the wild and wacky
> >> world of =C2=A0Oxfordism, I'm sure.
>
> >>> Carry on.
> >> An interesting sign-off. I wonder what Dr. Waugaman would say about
> >> what it indicates about delusions of control and reality.
>
> >> TR
>
> > i think " That's all I have to say. Carry on." =C2=A0were the words of J=
ohn
> > de Vere, Earl of Oxford (1443-1513) before the Battle of Tewkesbury,
> > which he fled.
>
> > The phrase may also have been invoked by the 17th Earl of Oxford
> > during service for the Dutch Republic, which he fled.
>
> > In both case, the respective earl just brought more and more baggage
> > to the lineage, hence the term "carry-on luggage."
>
> Perhaps Neddie wrote the screenplay for "Carry On Hamlet"?


This is darned witty. Perhaps you two should collaborate
on a satire about Looney or even Oxford..Take on the Oxfordians.

Satire desolves all ideologies as Mel Brooks well
knows.


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> --
> John W. Kennedy
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> feminist agenda if you're not sure your leader isn't a transvestite."
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