humanities.lit.authors.shakespeare

On Mar 22, 1:36 pm, Art Neuendorffer
wrote:
> >>> Tom Reedy wrote:
>
> >>>> All the evidence in the world would not convince an Oxfordian that
> >>>> Shakespeare wrote Shakespeare, because their belief does not
> >>>> rest on historical or logical premises.
>
> >> .nordicskiv2 wrote:
>
> >>> ...just as all the scientific evidence and mathematical proof in
> >>> the world does not convince science cranks like Elizabeth that
> >>> their angle trisection algorithms, "refutations" of relativity, etc. a=
re
> >>> incorrect, because their belief does not rest upon empirical or
> >>> logical premises, but rather upon _a priori_ ideological biases.
> >> .
> >>> Tom Reedy wrote:
>
> >>>> In fact, it is based on no evidence whatsoever.
>
> >> .nordicskiv2 wrote:
>
> >>> ...apart from invented "evidence,"
> >>> some of which is exceedingly amusing.
>
> .
>
>
>
> Art Neuendorffer wrote:
> >> --------------=AD=AD-------------=AD---------------=AD-=AD---------
> >> 13 people were burned at the stake on June 27, 1556
> >> at STRATFORD atte Bowe [in London]. One of them:
> >> .
> >> _ "John Routh said, that he was convented
> >> _ before the [16th] earle of Oxford,
> >> _ and by him sent to the Castle of Colchester:"
> >> ------------------------------------------------------
> >> ____ STRATFORD upon Avon
> >> ________ Guild Chapel
> >> _______ white-WASHING
> >> _______ CHAMBERLAIN
> >> ________ ALDERMAN/Bailiff
> >> _________________________ /----------------------\
> >> ______________ John ----- MARY MARgerY Webbe
> >> _____ [wrote his 'marke'] | [wrote her 'marke']__[d. St.Adrian's]
> >> __[bur. St.Adrian's Day]- | [d. St.Adrian's Day]
> >> _________________ |
> >> _______ /---------------\ ___________ [illiterate]
> >> . MARgerY Shakspere ------------ Anne
> >> _______________ | [b. 1556]
> >> _ [BROOK House] __ | [only son,
> >> ___ [Shaxpere's Boys] | b.1584, dies]
> >> ___- [Shaxpere Gloves] |
> >> ___- [ *TANNERY* ] |
> >> __ [TINer of AVERland] __ |
> >> _ [Cervantes' "lame hand" ] |
> >> ___ [W. Smith : mentor] |
> >> |||||| [Catholic Relatives persecuted] |
> >> ____ [Thomas Trussell] |
> >> _ [Sweet Swan of Avon] |
> >> ___ [By ME : WIL(cu)L] __ |
> >> ____- [Bend Spear crest] |
> >> _______- [Golding's 'OVID'] |
> >> __ [Camden's: 'pregnant witt'] |
> >> ______ [Qu. of Scots Trial] |
> >> ___ [Yoricke's Scounce] |
> >> ___ ["Gentleman" poet] |
> >> _ [NESTOR reference] |
> >> |||||||||| [MERMAID tAVERn] __ |
> >> _ ['For TRUTH is TRUTH'] |
> >> _____- [Paul's 'I am that I am'] |
> >> |||||| [Hamlet's 'To Be or not To Be'] |
> >> |||||||||| [stole from Raphael Holinshed] |
> >> - [1586 deer park poacher] |
> >> ||||||||||||||||| [pinch-FART penny-FATheR] |
> >> ||||||||||||||||| [1616 Faust/FAMA Frat. death] |
> >> |||||||||||||||||| [John Manningham's 1602 diary] |
> >> _-- [=A31,000/year for 18 years] |
> >> _ [- Item, =A310 unto the poore ] |
> >> | [ARD(en) plot/tower/exec.]__ |
> >> ------___ [7 Year exile for indiscretion] |
> >> ||||||| [Stephen Bellott dowry: =A3200] |
> >> ||||||| [Hothead Gastrell: Esdras 6:9] |
> >> ||||||||||||||||||| [Anne Cornwaleys book 1588?] |
> >> |||||||||||||| [not a *COMPANY* keeper ] |
> >> |||||||||| [Richard Field recognized 1593] |
> >> ||||||||||||||||| [Meres' Top 10 in comedy 1598] |
> >> |||||||||||||||||||[Baroness Elizabeth of Abbingdon] |
> >> |||||||||||||||||||[drunken B.Knell suicide attack] |
> >> ___________________ |
> >> |||||||||||||||| [falcon w./spear in dexter CLAW] |
> >> _____ [ Henry Evans > ____ |
> >> |||| 1608 Lessor of Blackfriars Th.] |
> >> ||||||||||||||||| dies unnoticed / tomb unmarked |
> >> ||||| Church Burial Record "X"ed |
> >> ___________________ |
> >> ______ Hall M.D. -------- SVSANna
> >> |||||||| [d. on Lope de Vega's 73rd birthday [b.May 26, 1583]
> >> _ 3 mo. after Lope dies] ____ [could write name]
> >> ______________________________________
> >> -------------------------------------------------------
> >> _____ STRATFORD atte Bowe
> >> ________ Pontius Pilate
> >> ______ hand-WASHING
> >> ___ GREAT CHAMBERLAIN
> >> _____ EALDORMAN/Bailiff
> >> _______ John ----------- MARgerY
> >> ________ |
> >> ___ /-----------\ ___ m. on OPALIA [Sonneteer]
> >> . MARY Oxford --------------- Anne
> >> ________________ | [b. 1556]
> >> - [BROOKE House] __ |[only son dies
> >> _______ [Oxford's Boys] | b.May 1583]
> >> _______- [Oxford Gloves] |
> >> _______- [ *STANNARY* ] |
> >> __ [TINner of VEREland] __ |
> >> _ [Cervantes' "lame hand" ] |
> >> ______ [T. Smith : mentor] |
> >> |||| [Catholic Relatives persecuted] |
> >> _____ [Thomas Trussell] |
> >> ___ [Sweet Oxford/Ned] |
> >> ___ [yb NV : DRO(fx)O] __ |
> >> ______- [bent Spear crest] |
> >> _______ [Golding's 'OVID'] |
> >> __ [Golding's 'pregnancy of wit'] |
> >> ______ [Qu. of Scots Trial] |
> >> __- [Yorke's Scounces] |
> >> ___ ["Gentleman" poet] |
> >> - [NESTOR reference] |
> >> |||||||||||| [MERMAID grand-dam] |
> >> . ['For TRUTH is TRUTH'] |
> >> ______ [Paul's 'I am that I am'] |
> >> - [Hamlet's 'v=E6re eller ikke v=E6re'] |
> >> |||||||||| [judged by Raphael Holinshed] |
> >> _ [1604 deer park warden] |
> >> |||||||| [bend-FART quenny-forgetter] |
> >> |||||||||||||||[1604 Faust/FAMA Frat. death] |
> >> |||||||||||||| [John Manningham's 1602 diary] |
> >> ___ [=A31,000/year for 18 years] |
> >> __ [- Item, =A310 unto a Beggar ] |
> >> || [(how)ARD plot/tower/exec.] |
> >> ____- [7 Year exile for indiscretion] |
> >> ||||||| [Thomas Bellott dowry: =A32,000] |
> >> || [Hothead Gastrell: Esdras 6:9] |
> >> |||||||||| [Anne Cornwaleys book 1588?] ||| |
> >> ||||||||| [denouncing aye the *Company* ] ||||| |
> >> || [Richard Field recognized 1589] ||| |
> >> ||||||||| [Meres' Top 10 in comedy 1598] ||| |
> >> |||||||| [Baroness Elizabeth of Abingdon] ||| |
> >> || [drunken B-Knell suicide attack] || |
> >> _____________________ |
> >> ||||||||||[lion w./broken lance in dexter PAW]|| |
> >> ________ [ Henry Evans > |
> >> _ 1583 Lessor of Blackfriars Th.] |
> >> |||||||||||| dies unnoticed / tomb unmarked |
> >> - Church Burial Record "X"ed ___ |
> >> _____________________ |
> >> _________ Herbert (Philip) ----- SVSAN
> >> ||||| [b. St. LONGINUS day] [b. May 26]
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> "I admit that some of them are not VERy important . . .
> >> . but look at *the NUMBER of* them"
> >> . - Sam Spade ( Maltese FALCON)
> >> .
> >> Sam Diamond: You pit your wits with me, little man,
> >> and you won't have your wits to pit with, know what I mean? ...
>
> > ------------------------------------------------------
> Elizabeth wrote:
>
> > I rest my case.
>
> I believe that's my case.
>
> Art Neuendorffer

I thought it was an anomaly.