humanities.lit.authors.shakespeare

On Mar 9, 9:05=EF=BF=BDam, "conradc...@gmail.com"
wrote:
> On Mar 9, 3:24=EF=BF=BDam, Tom Reedy wrote:
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> > On Mar 7, 11:24=EF=BF=BDpm, Greg Reynolds wrote:
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> > > On Mar 7, 10:47=EF=BF=BDpm, Tom Reedy wrote:
> > > The best production of AYLI I ever saw cut Jaques' role. It was a
> > > breath of fresh air not to have to endure the ages of man speech and
> > > the following obligatory audience applause.
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> > > > > >> TR
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> > > > But you didn't see the production, did you? Of the five AYLI
> > > > productions I've seen, it was by far the liveliest.
> > > > TR
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> > > You're just on the eighth stage--grumpy old man.
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> > > Jacques is the droll centerpiece we crave.
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> > > Yes i hate him too. Mostly because a dork gets to shine.
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> > > (Is it possible modern science has cured melancholy and we just don't
> > > respect it anymore?)
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> > > But we need Jacques, with his depressing two syllable name, just to
> > > explore the ennui/unness/notness of this existing thing we do.
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> > > Jacques stays.
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> > > I don't like the idea of kicking out characters.
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> > What's the difference between kicking out a character and kicking out
> > scenes? Or transferring dialogue from one character to another?
> > They're done all the time.
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> > Check out the Player/Heceba scene in Olivier's Hamlet. It ain't there.
> > In fact, about half the play is missing, yet somehow it's rated as one
> > of the best Hamlets ever filmed (but not in my book).
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> Nor in mine, for those reasons.
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> Olivier's _Hamlet_ was hailed as a great accomplishment because it
> applied the Oedipal/psychoanalytic reading of Freud. =EF=BF=BDYou might
> remember that in the final confrontation Olivier runs up a flight of
> stairs so he can dive-bomb Claudius. =EF=BF=BDAlways struck me as stupid. =
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> this was hailed as dramatizing Hamlet's self-destructiveness and its
> supposed unity with his desire to kill Claudius.
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> In my opinion, kicking out characters, deleting scenes, transferring
> dialogue, and otherwise rewriting the plays is a great idea for all
> those who are better writers than Shakespeare.
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> Conrad.

MM:
Shakespeare's popularity continues, but we have some folks out of the
mainstream. Groatsworth of Wit was near the beginning of it.

Michael Martin