humanities.lit.authors.shakespeare

On Feb 22, 2:35 pm, Art Neuendorffer
wrote:
> > > Elizabeth wrote:
>
> > > > Would you mind stating, in plain prose,
> > > > what your theory is on the 'True' series?
>
> > > > I would like to have a conversation
> > > > without having to wade through piles of
> > > > word debris.
> .
> > Art Neuendorffer wrote:
>
> > > Well, that's your problem right there, Elizabeth.
>
> > > It's all about buzz words, code words, word games, etc.
> > > ABSOLUTELY nothing is to be taken at face value.
>
> .
>
> Elizabeth wrote:
>
> > Yes, ARt, I know that but IN CONTEXT.
>
> > CONTEXT IS ALL.
>
> > You remove everything from context
> > and then expect us to gasp with
> > delight. We don't know what
> > in hell you're talkin' about.
>
> I don't know what sort of CONTEXT you mean.
> I've told you a thousand times the big picture is:
>
> Oxford wrote Shakespeare but can only get it
> published anonymously through his cousin Bacon.
>
> That's almost all the CONTEXT I feel that
> I really understand on the positive side.
>
> On the negative side the CONTEXT is
> that NOTHING can be taken literally.
>
> So here, specifically, I'm talking about your statement:
> -----------------------------------------------
>
> Elizabeth wrote: <>
> . . .the Sea Venture had a critical flaw in her
> newness, as her timbers had not set. The
> caulking was forced from between them, and
> the ship began to leak rapidly. All hands were
> applied to bailing, but the water continued to
> rise in the hold.
>
> We can trust this statement because the
> author himself is telling the reader that the
> 'oakum' is spewing out of every seam in the ship.>>
> -----------------------------------------------
> And I''m disagreeing with you that
> "We can TRUST this statement" (!!!)
> because we can't TRUST anything...and because
> *OAKUM* , *SPEW* & *EVERy* are ALL code words.
>
> The sinking of the fictional "Sea Venture" from wet *HEMPE* ,
> the burning of the fictional "Globe" from burning *HEMPE*
> and the fictional SPEWing out of Essex in 1601
> are ALL metaphors for each other.
> -----------------------------------------
> Art Neuendorffer

I read your post Art. You and I will
never agree. Women like 'context.'
If we play word games we want a
scrabble board to hold the letters.

I am of the view that the only way
to determine the identity of the
author is to understand the cultural,
historical, literary context. Otherwise
all is flux.