humanities.lit.authors.shakespeare

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>>>> "conradc...@gmail.com" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Art, your style is getting closer and closer to Lyra's.
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Lyra wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Isn't he just quoting from something?
>>>> As I often do.
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> > Art Neuendorffer wrote:
>>>
>>> Art: Alright, how often do we do it?
>>> .
>>> Lyra: Art, how is that important?
>>>
>>> . Honestly, do you really think Conrad's gonna ask you that?
>>> .
>>> Art: Lyra, he's a Stratfordian. They're interested in stuff like that.
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> "conradc...@gmail.com" wrote:
> >
> > Oh, is that why I'm a Strat?

Is there really any good reason atall to be a Strat?

>>> Lyra: Alright, alright. We do it, uh...
>>> (thinks) five times a day, okay?
>
>>> Art: (suggestive) Oooh, baby.
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nordicskiv2 wrote:
>
> Cool it, Art -- don't go mountin' the Queen yet. Saint Carolyn
> may be long-suffering, but her forbearance has limits.
> Your[sic] lucky that she tolerates your trysts with George Mason.
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Tryst, n. [OE. trist, tryst, a variant of trust; cf. Icel.
=2E treysta to make trusty, fr. traust confidence, security.]
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The Birthplace Tryst:
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> "conradc...@gmail.com" wrote:
> >
> > No wonder you have all those grandkids...
> >
> > Conrad.
> >
> > ps - I foresee a new paradigm for authorship conspiracy theories:
> > which candidate backers outpopulate others.
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nordicskiv2 wrote:
>
> Outpopulate or outcopulate? What an interesting idea! But I don't
> foresee Art having much success by those means -- even abundant
> progeny must be persuaded. If even Saint Carolyn thinks that Art
> needs professional help, then one doubts that the kids could be
> conVERts. Nor is "Dr." Faker likely to be very successful --
> his vaunted copulations with trees are apt to prove unfruitful.
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He can still be impeached.
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nordicskiv2 wrote:
>
> But the suggestion raises an interesting question:
>
> What do you get when you cross a Baconian with a Looney partisan?
>
> Answer: A Baloneyan.
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<the family Haliotidae. They are marine snails in the large class
Gastropoda. Abalone shells have a low and open spiral structure, and
are characterized by several respiratory holes in a row near the
shell's outer edge. >>
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http://mathworld.wolfram.com/ApollonianGasket.html
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<concept, or dichotomy, based on certain features of ancient Greek
mythology. Several Western philosophical and literary figures have
invoked this dichotomy in critical and creative works, including
Plutarch, Friedrich Nietzsche, Robert A. Heinlein, Ruth Benedict,
Thomas Mann, Hermann Hesse, literary critic G. Wilson Knight, Ayn Rand
(who rejected it in favor of mind-body integration), Stephen King and
cultural critic Camille Paglia. In Greek mythology, Apollo and
Dionysus are both sons of Zeus. Apollo is the god of the Sun,
lightness, music, and poetry, while Dionysus is the god of wine,
ecstasy, and intoxication. In the modern literary usage of the
concept, the contrast between Apollo and Dionysus symbolizes
principles of individualism versus wholeness, light versus darkness,
or civilization versus primal nature. The ancient Greeks did not
consider the two gods as opposites or rivals.>> -From Wikipedia,
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*BOLOGNA* sausage [It. salsiccia di *BOLOGNA*], a large sausage made
of
*BACON or HAM* , veal, and pork, chopped fine and inclosed in a skin.
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<university received a charter from Frederick I Barbarossa (1158); but,
appears to have existed since, at least, the 1080s, making it perhaps
the first and most long-lived university in the western world (which
arguably invented the university as an institutional form, at least in
the modern sense of the word "university"). The University of
*BOLOGNA* is historically notable for its teaching of canon and civil
law.>>
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DC4_G7HHJ0GE
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John Webster (1580?-1634). The Duchess of Malfi.
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Dramatis Person=E6
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FERDINAND [Duke of Calabria].
CARDINAL [his brother].
ANTONIO [*BOLOGNA*, Steward of the Household to the Duchess].
DELIO [his friend].
DANIEL DE BOSOLA [Gentleman of the Horse to the Duchess].
[CASTRUCCIO, an old Lord.]
MARQUIS OF PESCARA.
[COUNT] MALATESTI.
RODERIGO, SILVIO, GRISOLAN: [Lords.]
DOCTOR.
The Several Madmen.
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my *BOLOGNA* has a first name its.....ahhh.....o-s-c-a-r
my *BOLOGNA* has a second name its....ummm.....m-a-y-e-r
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=2E Odyssey - Homer (tr. Samuel Butler) ** BOOK VII
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<<"First find the QUEEN her name is *ARETE*. . ."
=2E Ulysses went straight through the court,
still hidden by the *CLOAK of darkness* in which Minerva
had enveloped him, till he reached *ARETE* & King Alcinous;
then he laid his hands upon the KNEES of [*ARETE*] and at
that moment the miraculous darkness fell away from him.>>
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______ *LVCRECE*
______ {anagram}
______ *VERE CCL*
http://www.ndsu.nodak.edu/ndsu/maune/images/Lucrece.jpg
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And my TRUE eyes have nEVER practised how
To *CLOAKE* offences with a cunning brow.
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'O Night, thou furnace of foul-reeking smoke,
Let not the jealous Day behold that face
Which underneath thy *BLACK ALL-HIDDING CLOAKE*
Immodestly lies *MARTYR'D WITH DISGRACE* !
Keep still possession of thy gloomy place,
That all the faults which in thy reign are made
May likewise be *SEPULCHRED* in thy shade
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_. GOOD FREND FO_{R}_[IE]{SVS}'_S(AKE)__ FOR[BE]ARE,
___ TO DIGG THE D_{V}_[ST] ___ EN(CLO)ASED [HE]ARE:
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__ BLESTE BE Ye MA_{N} Yt___ SPA[RE]S THES STONES,
___ AND CVRST BE H_{E} Yt___ MO[VE]S MY BONES.
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http://library.thinkquest.org/5175/images/grave1.jpg
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=2E CRATYLUS by Plato
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<<[SOCRATES to Hermogenes]: *ARETE* signifying in the 1st place
ease of motion, then that the STREAM of the good soul is unimpeded,
and has therefore the attribute of EVER FLOWING without
let or hindrance, and is therefore called *ARETE*,
or, more correctly, aeireite (EVER-FLOWING)>>
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http://hollowaypages.com/jonson1692cynthia.htm
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CYNTHIA'S *REVELS* OR,
*The Fountain* of Self-Love.
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A COMICAL SATYR.
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First Acted in the Year 1600.
By the then CHILDREN of QUEEN ELIZABETH's CHAPPEL.
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With the Allowance of the Master of REVELS.
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The Author B. J.
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Nasutum volo, nolo polyposum. Mart.
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TO THE SPECIAL FOUNTAIN of MANNERS, The Court.
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THou art a Bountiful and Brave *SPRING* , and waterest all the Noble
Plants of this Island. In thee the whole Kingdom dresseth it self, and
is ambitious to use thee as her GLASS. Beware then thou render Mens
Figures TRULY, and teach them no less to HATE their Deformities, than
to love their Forms: For, to Grace, there should come REVERence; and
NO MAN can call that Lovely, which is not also Venerable. It is not
Powd'ring, Perfuming, and EVERy day smelling of the *TAYLOR* , that
conVERtEth to a Beautiful Object: but a Mind shining through any Sute,
which needs no False Light, either of Riches or Honours, to help it.
Such shalt thou find some HERE, even *in the Reign of CYNTHIA* ,
(a CRITES and an *ARETE* .) Now, under thy PHOEBUS, it will be thy
Province to make more: Except thou desirest to have thy Source
mix with the *SPRING* of Self-love, and so wilt draw upon thee as
welcom a Discovery of thy Days, as was then made of her Nights.
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Thy Servant, but not Slave, - BEN. JOHNSON.
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The PERSONS of the PLAY.
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CYNTHIA.
MERCURY.
HESPERUS.
CRITES.
AMORPHUS.
ASOTUS.
HEDON.
ANAIDES.
MORPHIDES.
PROSAITES.
MORUS.
CUPID.
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ECCHO.
ARETE.
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=2E Act I. Scene IV.
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Crites, Asotus, Amorphus.
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WHat! the well-dieted Amorphus become a Water-
drinker? I see he means not to write Verses then.
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Aso. No, Crites? why?
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Cri. Because ---- Nec placere diu, nec *VIVERE* carmina
=2E possunt, qu=E6 scribuntur aqu=E6 potoribus.

Amo. What say you to your *HELICON* ?
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Cri. O, the Muses well! that's EVER excepted.
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http://www.bartleby.com/111/chapman20.html
http://www.bartleby.com/111/index.html
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=2E CERTAIN ANCIENT GREEK EPIGRAMS TRANSLATED.
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Heaven's fire shall first fall darken'd from his sphere,
Grave Night the light weed of the Day shall wear,
Fresh streams shall chase the sea, tough ploughs shall tear
Her fishy bottoms, men in long date dead
Shall rise and live, before Oblivion shed
Those still-green leaves that crown great HOMER'S head.
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Chapman, George, trans. (1559?-1634).
The Odysseys of Homer, vol. 1. 1857.
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You first shall find the queen in court, whose name
Is *ARETE*, of parents born the same
That was the king her spouse; their pedigree
I can report. The great Earth-shaker, he
Of Periboea (that her sex out-shone,
And youngest daughter was t' Eurymedon,
Who of th' unmeasur'd-minded giants sway'd
Th' imperial sceptre, and the pride allay'd
Of men so impious with cold death, and died
Himself soon after) got the magnified
In mind, Nausithous; whom the kingdom's state
First held in supreme rule. Nausithous gat
Rhexenor, and Alcinous, now king.
Rhexenor (whose seed did no male fruit *SPRING* ,
And whom the silver-bow-grac'd Phoebus slew
Young in the court) his shed blood did renew
In only *ARETE*, who now is spouse
To him that rules the kingdom in this house,
And is her uncle king Alcinous,
Who honours her past equal. She may boast
More honour of him than the honour'd most
Of any wife in earth can of her lord,
How many more soEVER, realms afford,
That keep house under husbands. Yet no more
Her husband honours her, than her blest store
Of gracious children. All the city cast
Eyes on her as a Goddess, and give taste
Of their affections to her in their prayers,
Still as she decks the streets; for, all affairs
Wrapt in contention, she dissolves to men.
Whom she affects, she wants no mind to deign
Goodness enough. If her heart stand inclin'd
To your dispatch, hope all you wish to find,
Your friends, your longing family, and all
That can within your most affections fall."
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Patient Ulysses stood a while at gaze,
But, having all observed, made instant pace
Into the court; where all the peers he found,
And captains of Phaeacia, with cups crown'd,
Offering to sharp-eyed Hermes, to whom last
They used to sacrifice, when sleep had cast
His inclination through their thoughts. But these
Ulysses past, and forth went; nor their eyes
Took note of him, for Pallas stopp'd the light
With mists about him, that, unstay'd, he might
First to Alcinous, and *ARETE*,
Present his person; and, of both them, she,
By Pallas counsel, was to have the grace
Of foremost greeting. Therefore his embrace
He cast about her knee. And then off flew
The heavenly air that hid him. When his view,
With silence and with admiration strook
The court quite through; but thus he silence broke:
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"Divine Rhexenor's *offSPRING* , *ARETE*,
To thy most honour'd husband, and to thee,
A man whom many labours have distress'd
Is come for comfort, and to EVERy guest.
To all whom heaven vouchsafe delightsome lives,
And after to your issue that survives
A good resignment of the goods ye leave,
With all the honour that yourselves receive
Amongst your people. Only this of me
Is the ambition; that I may but see
(By your vouchsaf'd means, and betimes vouchsaf'd)
My country earth; since I have long been left
To labours, and to errors, barr'd from end,
And far from benefit of any friend."
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Feast past and sacrifice, to sleep all vow
Their eyes at either's house. Ulysses now
Was left here with Alcinous, and his queen,
The all-loved *ARETE*. The handmaids then
The vessel of the banquet took away.
When *ARETE* set eye on his array;
Knew both his out and under weed, which she
Made with her maids; and mused by what means he
Obtain'd their wearing; which she made request
To know, and wings gave to these speeches: "Guest!
First let me ask, what, and from whence you are?
And then, who grac'd you with the weeds you wear?
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When fair-arm'd *ARETE* her handmaids bad
A bed make in the portico, and ply
With clothes, the covering tapestry,
The blankets purple; well-napp'd waistcoats too,
To wear for more warmth. What these had to do,
They torches took and did. The bed purvey'd,
They moved Ulysses for his rest, and said:
"Come guest, your bed is fit, now frame to rest."
Motion of sleep was gracious to their guest;
Which now he took profoundly, being laid
Within a loop-hole tower, where was convey'd
The sounding portico. The king took rest
In a retired part of the house; where drest
The queen her self a bed, and trundlebed,
And by her lord reposed her rEVERend head.
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=2E FINIS LIBRI SEPTIMI HOM. ODYSS.
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=2E THE EIGHTH BOOK OF HOMER'S ODYSSEYS.
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Then *ARETE* her maids charg'd to set on
A well-sized caldron quickly. Which was done,
Clear water pour'd in, flame made so entire,
It gilt the brass, and made the water fire.
In mean space, from her chamber brought the queen
A wealthy cabinet, where, pure and clean,
She put the garments, and the gold bestow'd
By that free state, and then the other vow'd
By her Alcinous, and said: "Now, guest,
Make close and fast your gifts, lest, when you rest
A-ship-board sweetly, in your way you meet
Some loss, that less may make your next sleep sweet."
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=2E THE ELEVENTH BOOK OF HOMER'S ODYSSEYS.
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When white-arm'd *ARETE* this speech began:
"Ph=E6acians! How appears to you this man,
So goodly person'd, and so match'd with mind?
My guest he is, but all you stand combin'd
In the renown he doth us. Do not then
With careless haste dismiss him, nor the main
Of his dispatch to one so needy maim,
The Gods' free bounty gives us all just claim
To goods enow." This speech, the oldest man
Of any other Ph=E6acensian,
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Art Neuendorffer