humanities.lit.authors.shakespeare

Melanie wrote:
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> Well, I was being coarse and uncouth and definitely un-ladylike, but
> if one forgets that Shakespeare has been dead for 400 odd years, and
> pretends he were alive today, this nasty talk on HLAS against him
> is absolute libel and people would get sued for it,
> and if the Strats don't defend him from it, who will?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackie_Chiles
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Melanie wrote:
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> Even if Will had NOT written the plays and had "just" gone to London
> and acted on stage and built up the Globe Theatre and earned enough
> money to obtain the long-deserved coat-of-arms for his poor father,
> who, after all, did nothing worse than get into debt;
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<on the north-eastern side of town, in Henley Street,
thanks to his ignominious debut in the town records on
29 April: fined a shilling, along with Humphrey Reynolds
and Adrian Quiney, for making an unauthorised *DUNGHILL* ,>>
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_William Shakespeare: The Man Behind the Genius_ by Anthony Holden
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"Shaksper: The Life, The Works, The Treasures,"
(Simon & Schuster, $50).
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<time, Shaksper: The Life, the Works, the Treasures is unique in
containing 30 items of removable facsimile memorabilia including:
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1) John Shaksper's *DUNGHILL* fine record
2) http://www.dogbag.com/product_poop.htm >>
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=2E SIRACH 22:
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A slothful man is compared to the filth of a *DUNGHILL* :
EVERy man that takes it up *WILL SHAKE his hand*...
as TIMBER girt and bound together in a building
=2E *cannot be loosed with SHAKING* : so the heart
=2E that is stablished by *advised counsel*
=2E [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackie_Chiles ]
=2E shall fear at no time.
=2E A heart settled upon a thought of understanding is
=2E as a fair *PLAISTERING on the WALL* of a gallery.
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=2E READ IF THOV CANST,
=2E WHOM ENVIOVS DEATH HATH *PLAST* WITH
=2E IN THIS MONVMENT SHAKSPEARE:
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=2E FOX's Book of Martyrs ** CHAPTER XV
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<< *like a BUTCHER he lived, and like a BUTCHER he died* ,
=2E and lay seven months and more unburied,
=2E and at last like a carrion was buried in a *DUNGHILL* .>>
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=2E King Henry IV, Part ii Act 5, Scene 3
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PISTOL: Shal *DUNGHILL* curs confront the *HELICONs* ?
=2E and shall good NOOSE be baffled? http://tinyurl.com/2zsvec
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Oxford dedication : Fairie Queene (1590): *To th'HELICONian ymps*
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To the right Honourable the Earle of Oxenford,
Lord high Chamberlayne of England. &c.
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Defended from foule *ENUIES* poisnous bit.
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(W)hich so to doe may thee right well befit,
(S)ith th'antique glory of thine auncestry
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=2E *Vnder a shady VELE is therein writ* ,
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And eke thine owne long *liuing MEMORY* ,
=2E Succeeding them in TRUE nobility:
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And also for the loue, which thou doest beare
To th'HELICONian ymps, and they to thee,
They vnto thee, and thou to them most deare: -- E.S.
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Melanie wrote:
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> then Will managed to buy New Place AND land AND orchards,
> all the while helping the Globe Theatre to thrive.
> His poor son died, but his first daughter married well,
> even though his second did not, and he managed
> to keep his wife and his family thriving.
> All this is quite an achievement.
> Are we HLASians all so successful?
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I've been known to successfully hoard
Halloween left over Kit-Kats from time to time.
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Melanie wrote:
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> He may have been a "country boy" at the beginning,
> but what's wrong with that?
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Have YOU READ "Love's Labour's Lost" ?!
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Melanie wrote:
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> Anyway, it's not true. His father was Mayor for a while, in a small
> town, so he always was "somebody", and perhaps the "fall from
> grace" of his father's made Will Shakespeare stand out from the
> crowd even more than if he'd just have been any old glove-makers' son.
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Melanie at her job interview with Stadttheater-Luzern manager.
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Stadttheater-Luzern: Of course, Jackie O. was a great lady.
=2E Those are going to be some tough shoes to fill.
=2E Everyone loved her. She had such...grace.
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Melanie (gushing): Yes! Grace!
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Stadttheater-Luzern: Not many people have grace.
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Melanie: Well, you know, grace is a tough one.
=2E I like to think I have a little grace...not as much as Jackie -
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Stadttheater-Luzern: You can't have "a little grace."
=2E You either have grace, or you...don't.
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Melanie: O.K., fine, I have...no grace.
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Stadttheater-Luzern: And you can't acquire grace.
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Melanie: Well, I have no intention of "getting" grace.
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Stadttheater-Luzern: Grace isn't something you can pick up at the
market.
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Melanie (fed up): Alright, alright, look - I don't have grace, I don't
want grace...I don't even say grace, O.K.?
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Melanie wrote:
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> These attempts by the Anti's to portray him as a stuttering bumpkin
> snarling "Yar mum, I'se going oot to milk the coows" or whatever the
> Warwickshire accent is like, sleeping in the pig-sty in torn clothes
> and not knowing what shoes are for, is simply ludicrous.
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You nailed him!!
http://www.ventriloquistcentral.com/tribute/makers/curtis.jpg
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Melanie wrote:
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> Everyone who knew him agreed he had "the gift of the gab"
> and loved to talk, and could sweep people off their feet
> with his talk, for one thing.
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Except I should IN freendship seeme ingrate,
Denying duty, where to I am bound;
With letting slip your Honour's worthy state,
At all assayes, which I have Noble found
Right well I might refrayne to handle PEN:
*Denouncing aye the COMPANY of men*.
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"The more to be admired q[uia] *he was not a COMPANY keeper*
=2E lived IN SHOREDITCH, wouldn't be DEBAUCHed,
=2E & if invited to writ: he was IN PAINE."
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=2E DEBAUCH, v. t. & i. [F. D['E]BAUCHER,
=2E cf. F. bauge LAIR OF A WILD BOAR]
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Melanie wrote:
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> In these 7 years I have been on HLAS
> I've seen people throw all kinds of insults
> at Will and at his family, claiming his daughter whored around,

Only his respectable daughter.

> for example, or that Will was just a mercenary, greedy oaf, or that
> Ben Jonson's moving prologue to the FF was just a joke, or that
> Will's portrait was a caricature, and on and on and bloody on
> it goes.

Canon to right of them,
Canon to left of them,
Canon in front of them
Volley'd and thunder'd;
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Melanie wrote:
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> If WIll were alive folks, you'd all be rotting in jail by now.

Could be fun. Don't have to worry about your meals, or
what you're going to do Saturday night. And they do shows.
Yeah, we could put on a show - maybe "Bye Bye Birdie"
or "My Fair Lady". Melanie, you could be Liza Doolittle.
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=2E Nickolas Nickleby by Charles Dickens
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<=2E and let me *ROT* there, to infect the air!'>>
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Art Neuendorffer