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On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 17:52:18 -0700, Hasta La Vista wrote
(in article ):

>
> "George Graves" wrote in message
> news:0001HW.C42797BB00067930F01846D8@news.comcast.net...
>> On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 07:49:37 -0700, Hasta La Vista wrote
>> (in article ):
>>
>>>
>>> "George Graves" wrote in message
>>> news:0001HW.C426501A0008C969F01846D8@news.comcast.net...
>>>> On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 08:04:43 -0700, Hasta La Vista wrote
>>>> (in article ):
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mayor of R'lyeh" wrote in message
>>>>> news:qhc0041l62v65pvpf1msokinmb1u4r74s2@4ax.com...
>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 00:42:45 +0200, Sandman wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In article <5eavv39f8r5ddgk8aq705enoj9oheuur6c@4ax.com>,
>>>>>>> Mayor of R'lyeh wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 10:22:15 -0700 (PDT), Dave Fritzinger
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Interesting article in Business Week.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/apr2008/tc20080410_206
>>>>>>>>> 88
>>>>>>>>> 1.
>>>>>>>>> htm
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "The 20-year death grip that Microsoft has held on the core of
>>>>>>>>> computing is finally weakening--pried loose with just two fingers.
>>>>>>>>> With
>>>>>>>>> one finger you press "Control" and with the other you press "right
>>>>>>>>> arrow." Instantly you switch from a Macintosh operating system (OS)
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> a Microsoft Windows OS. Then, with another two-finger press, you
>>>>>>>>> switch back again. So as you edit family pictures, you might use
>>>>>>>>> Mac's
>>>>>>>>> iPhoto. And when you want to access your corporate e-mail, you can
>>>>>>>>> switch back instantly to Microsoft Exchange."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've been saying for months that Apple is missing a Golden
>>>>>>>> Opportunity
>>>>>>>> by not making the fact that any OS can run on Macs the centerpiece
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> an ad campaign. It might not sit well with the Mac Faithful but it
>>>>>>>> would certainly make a lot of other people take a second look at Mac
>>>>>>>> HW.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Get a Mac ads have mentioned this on several occasions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Its been mentioned in passing but I'm talking about launching a
>>>>>> campaign that has that point as its centerpiece.
>>>>>> Of course it would require Apple ads to actually promote Apple
>>>>>> products instead of taking cheapshots at Microsoft based on
>>>>>> half-truths and outright lies.
>>>>>
>>>>> If running Windows becomes the center point of Apple's ad campaign, how
>>>>> will
>>>>> they convince people to pay more for hardware to run Windows?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You won't convince them. The fact that a Mac CAN run Windows doesn't
>>>> mean
>>>> that most do. In fact, most don't.
>>>
>>> How do you know how many Macs are running Windows?
>>
>> I know lots of Mac users. There is a such thing as sampling, you know.
>> After
>> all, Nielsen ratings work that way.
>
> So the real answer is you have no idea how many Mac users are running
> Windows. You live in a world of your own making and you don't look past
> it.

No that's YOUR answer, the one you want. Mac users don't want Windows. That's
why They're Mac users and not PC users. Most of us made that decision ages
ago.
>
>>>> You pay a bit more for hardware (in some
>>>> cases) from Apple to run OSX.
>>>
>>> In my case I found Apple's prices to be double for what I paid for my PC,
>>> for less hardware than I got.
>>
>> So you can buy a PC and get MORE of LESS. Big deal. I can buy 50 Double
>> Cheeseburgers from MacDonalds or one good steak from Ruth's Chris for $50.
>> I
>> don't have to tell you which I consider a better way to spend my $50. More
>> of
>> less is never as appealing as less of more.
>
> I bought a PC and got more of what Apple includes, not less, for half of
> Apple's price.

No, you got more of less.
>
> I got two good steaks from Ruth's Chris for $25 instead of half a steak for
> $50 from Apple.

Nope Rith's Chris doesn't sell two steaks for $25. You got more of less
because Windows is less, a lot less!
>
>>>> If you want to (or have to) run Windows, buy a
>>>> Windows box and skip the Mac.
>>>
>>> Most of the world seems to have taken your advice. :-D
>>
>> And that's just fine. Apple doesn't need for the whole world to buy Macs.
>> They do just fine where they are. Apple is a premium brand and I suspect
>> that
>> they'll stay that way. After all, it works for them.
>
> Why is it you don't tell this to all the people who are saying Mac market
> share is going up like a skyrocket?

It is increasing. But it will never be 10% of the world's market and I
sincerely hope that doesn't change.
>
>> You Winscum
>
> Winscum? You have a name for those damned by your cult?

I have no cult. But a Winscum is a Windows lover who comes to this NG to
denigrate the Mac.
>
>> seem to
>> think only in terms of market share,
>
> In spite of me telling you my choice was guided by how much more I got for
> my money? Little of what you say seems to have any real relation to actual
> people, places or things.

Your overall tenor belies your words.

>> a very narrow view of any market, if you
>> don't mind me saying so. There are lots of companies making premium
>> products
>> whose market share is tiny when viewed against the mainstream, but
>> Bentley,
>> Rolls Royce, Breitling, Rolex, Vacuum Tube Logic, Martin Logan, MV Agusta,
>> Armeria Tucci, E.J. Chutchill, etc., do very well in their respective
>> niches,
>> thank you.
>
> What has that got to do with Apple? They only sell PCs like you can buy
> from any other PC maker, except they charge you more for less.

That's why you do not understand the Mac market and you never will. Calling a
Macintosh "just a PC" is like calling a Brietling "just a watch".
>
>> The fact that one can get MUCH cheaper cars, watches, amplifiers,
>> speakers, motorcycles, and shotguns, or that some people will say that one
>> gets more for their money buying cheaper, more mass produced, similar
>> items
>> doesn't lessen the appeal of these premium brands to those who value them.
>
> More mass produced? Apple PCs are no less mass produced than any other PC.
> It takes more than a premium price to make a premium product.

As I said, like most of the Winscum who post here, you are incapable of
"getting it". You might as well stop trying.