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On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 10:24:20 -0600, Maverick wrote:

>David Fritzinger wrote:
>> In article <4oKdnUCzBq75tmXanZ2dnUVZ_r3inZ2d@bresnan.com>,
>> Maverick wrote:
>>
>>
>>>David Fritzinger wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>In article
>>>><3acdc0e7-cdd0-4aaa-8e10-613703533044@m71g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
>>>> "Mayor Of R'lyeh" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>On Apr 5, 7:01 am, -hh wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Megadave wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Christianity had nothing to do with that. It was little
>>>>>>>more than an extreme turf war and people just being assholes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ah, so that explains the Crusades,
>>>>>
>>>>>The Crusades were a war of reconquest. They were no more immoral than
>>>>>the Reconquista of Spain or the Muslim conquest of Christian lands in
>>>>>the first place.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Except, of course, for all the excesses that were done in the Church's
>>>>name during the crusades.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>the Spanish Inquisition,
>>>>>
>>>>>Established by the Spanish Crown, not the church. All executions were
>>>>>committed by secular authorities.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Actually, you are wrong. There were 3 inquisitions, and they were
>>>>supported by the Catholic Church.
>>>>http://galileo.rice.edu/chr/inquisition.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>the Holocaust,
>>>>>
>>>>>Comitted by atheists.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Whether Hitler himself was an athiest is questionable, but many, many
>>>>Christians were Nazis, and participated in the Holocaust. And, let's
>>>>face it, the Holocaust was nothing more than the culmination of a long
>>>>tradition of antisemitism in Christian Europe. This tradition stretches
>>>>back to Martin Luther, at least.
>>>>http://www.humanitas-international.org/showcase/chronography/documents/lu
>>>>ther-jews.htm
>>>>
>>>>Nearly every country in Europe expelled their Jews at one time or
>>>>another, and pogroms were widespread in Eastern Europe. No, Mayor, the
>>>>antisemitism that eventually led to the Hitler and the Holocaust long
>>>>existed in Europe.
>>>>[snip]
>>>>
>>>
>>>I've heard of this as well, tho I never bothered to look into it.
>>>What was the root of the expulsions anyway?
>>
>>
>> I just googled it, and found some of the following sources.
>> Spain: www.fordham.edu/halsall/jewish/1492-jews-spain1.html
>> France: www.fordham.edu/halsall/jewish/1182-jewsfrance1.html
>> Parts of Russia: www.jewish-history.com/
>> Occident/volume1/mar1844/ukase.html
>> England: www.medievalarthistory.co.uk/
>> The_History_of_the_Jews_in_England.html
>>
>
>Hmmm... I see a trend in all of this but still can't identify the real
>cause. It happened in many countries and they are the only known ones
>to have been expelled from so many countries. There must be a common
>denominator in this somewhere... I just can't find it.

King Edward expelled the Jews from England because he had heavily
borrowed from them to build his castle system used to subdue Wales and
couldn't pay them back. Don't you wish you could get rid of your debts
as easily? 8)


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