comp.sys.mac.advocacy

In article ,
Mayor of R'lyeh wrote:

> On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 01:41:17 -0400, ZnU wrote:
>
> >In article <9oeeu3pdvl89flk81ah52ec56quptugi7c@4ax.com>,
> > Mayor of R'lyeh wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 00:34:00 -0400, ZnU wrote:
> >>
> >> >In article ,
> >> > Mayor of R'lyeh wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 19:57:20 -0400, "MuahMan"
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >[snip]
> >> >
> >> >> >Seriously. IE is rock stable, never crashes, easy to use, fast, and
> >> >> >has
> >> >> >the
> >> >> >drop down arrow for history; so i don't have to actually open history.
> >> >> >It
> >> >> >rocks since I generally visit the same 20-30 sites.
> >> >>
> >> >> It also has a home button on the toolbar. My home page is a webpage I
> >> >> made that has links to all of the sites I regularly visit. I use the
> >> >> Home button quite a bit. That Safari lacks one is a serious strike
> >> >> against it with me.
> >> >
> >> >Go to View -> Customize Toolbar and add one. (Works on the Mac, anyway.
> >> >It uses OS X's standard toolbar customization system; I'm not sure if
> >> >Apple would have ported all of that to Windows, but there's a fair
> >> >chance.)
> >>
> >> Yes it works the same in Windows apparently. But why in the %$#@ is
> >> something like that under View when it clearly belongs under
> >> Preferences or Options? This is doing nothing but firming up my
> >> opinion that to design their software Apple finds the common sense way
> >> of doing things and then avoids it all costs.
> >
> >Apple is carrying a standard and widely followed Mac UI convention over
> >to the Windows version of Safari here.
>
> By 'widely' you mean 'by Apple'. I've never seen anyone else do
> something like that.

Virtually every Mac application follows this convention, including Mac
apps not written by Apple.

> And that's the problem. They're including their screwy ways in places
> that don't find them cute.

It's true, Apple doesn't particularly seem to care about Windows UI
conventions. Then again, Windows users tend to be fairly oblivious to
such things themselves. As do many other Windows developers. Including
Microsoft.

> >You should also be able to right-click on the background of the
> >toolbar (i.e. not on a button) to get the command.
>
> That isn't working here. I get nothing.

Maybe this didn't quite survive the porting.

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