comp.sys.mac.advocacy

> Actually, ID isn't even a hypothesis. =A0It's just a long-winded way
of
> saying "nuh-uh" to what we know about how species evolve.
>
> -jcr

Someone came up with a good way to show that (some of) the creationist
people are nuts. You ask them "Is there any set of facts, any set of
facts whatsoever, that if they were true would that make you believe
evolution was true?" If the person says no, then that proves they
that are not reason based on the arguments.

I think Christianity sucks, but that is not because I am biased
against it. All Christians have to do is get some actual good
results, better than the population in general, and I would be looking
for reasons why Christianity makes people better. I don't think good
of it because I am biased, but only because the results aren't good.
But if there is no circumstance under which you would ever believe in
something, no matter what facts are presented, then you obviously
aren't reasoning things through.