Group: alt.politics.economics
From: David Hartung
Date: Sunday, February 10, 2008 1:54 PM
Subject: Re: What is George W. McCain's religion these days?

stuff_stuff@comcast.net wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 10:30:48 -0600, David Hartung
> wrote:
>
>> stuff_stuff@comcast.net wrote:
>>> On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 23:15:16 -0600, David Hartung
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> stuff_stuff@comcast.net wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> While you're at it, what do YOU think did all that killing and dying
>>>>> accomplished?
>>>> In the end, nothing.
>>>>
>>>> I am an eternal optimist, I believe that had the war been prosecuted
>>>> properly, and had the military been given the task of winning, the war
>>>> would have been over well before 1968, and today, Vietnam would not be a
>>>> communist country.
>>> With Coca Cola and Starbucks.
>>>
>>>> The fact remains that Johnson had no intention of ever winning the war,
>>> What utter nonsense. If the military bureaucracy had not lied , he
>>> might not have been led down the path as far. If the GOP was not ready
>>> to pounce on any softness on communism, maybe some rationality would
>>> have prevailed.
>>>
>>>> and by the time Nixon was elected,
>>> after sabotaging the peace efforts and leading to the deaths of
>>> another 25,000 boys.
>>>
>>>> the American people would have
>>>> refused to support he sort of all out action a victory would have required.
>>> Because the goal was never real and the side we supported was corrupt
>>> and incompetent.
>>>
>>> But you have the opportunity to repeat it all in Iraq. Once again sub
>>> rosa agenda with the leaders lying to the people and killing our boys
>>> for no clear goal expect not losing face.
>>>
>> I have no desire to refight the Vietnam war. If you wish to believe the
>> fiction you posted, go right ahead, just understand that the facts do
>> not support you.
>
> LOL. You are so totally ignorant of the facts its damn right scary.
> And after waltzing that ignorance around in public you go to this sort
> of grandiose retreat. Hartung. You're amazing. Seriously. You live in
> an alternate universe devoid of facts and history.
>
> Go read something for once that doesn't come from the GOP. Read some
> original source material Go read the fucking Pentagon papers. For ONCE
> know a bit about something you're talking about. Seriously. Go learn
> something.

The Pentagon Papers is a report which is 7,000 pages long. Have you read
them? Somehow, I doubt it.