Group: alt.sci.physics
From: "Grant M. W."
Date: Sunday, February 10, 2008 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: The Aether and Relativity

"dlzc" wrote in message
news:e9ef424a-ea11-49fa-8825-34115573e3eb@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 28, 10:03 am, Laurent wrote:
>> On Nov 28, 9:31 am,dlzc wrote:
> ...
>> > > CBR (Cosmic Background Radiation) is material, and
>> > > Einstein's aether is physical but immaterial. First there
>> > > needs to be an aether before we can have anything like
>> > > matter, fields, spacetime, or even Wheeler's quantum
>> > > foam.
>>
>> > Doesn't follow. Energy excites "separateness", powers "material
>> > properties" (witness Bose-Einstein condensates). But since no
>> > space is empty of all the matter in the Universe (witness self-
>> > interference), no aether separate from the Universe is required. I
>> > just wish you would preface your personal comments with some
>> > indication that you are no longer simply relating facts-in-evidence.
>>
>> I never said the aether is separated from the universe.
>
> You said ...
>> > > First there needs to be an aether before we can have
>> > > anything
>
> ... [else] ...
>
> You said *exactly* that aether is separate from everything else, and
> was present first.
>
>> I said the aether is what unifies the uni-verse. The aether is one,
>> therefore the universe is one. The aether is energy, it is where the
>> universe emerged from. The aether is the substrate. But it isn't
>> matter, nor is it space as conceived in the GTR, yet, it is where
>> properties like the speed of propagation and direction of fields are
>> determined.
>
> All "in my opinion". You state it as fact, and you cite no evidence,
> no way to disprove what you are indicating. I am only whining about
> not adding "It appears to me that..." in what you say. Ever.
>
> Just my opinion, and I expect it to be ignored.
>
> David A. Smith



Also would like to suggest that different densities of aether affect light
and any vibrating particle as if it is going through a optical lens when
going from one aether density to another thus not only time space is more
length condensed light and matter are refracted by the difference in
densities..


Grant

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