Group: alt.uk.law
From: "alan holmes"
Date: Sunday, February 10, 2008 12:23 PM
Subject: Re: Sensible speed enforcement


"R. Mark Clayton" wrote in message
news:RcCdnReHgsafnTLaRVnyvQA@bt.com...
> Yesterday I was driving along the A6010 intermediate ring road in
> Manchester.
> At approx location 53.48747N 2.19892W there was a camera van on the
> central reservation.
> If it was filming vehicles from the back it might have snapped me at
> between 30 and 40, but more likely it was filming oncoming vehicles
> because then the driver is in the picture and the cars were coming
> downhill.
>
> This is an ideal place for a trap because: -
>
> 1. Wide modern dual carriageway with separate pedestrian and cycle paths
> and unobstructed views.
> 2. Originally designed for 40mph, but slight changes elsewhere meant it
> got a 30mph limit.
> 3. Disused graveyard on one side and empty fenced MCFC car park on the
> other.
> 4. No junctions for 200m either way, and both light controlled.
> 5. Clear dry day, moderate traffic.
> 6. Terrible accident record - see below*.
>
> Naturally the drivers and police would be aware of what a dangerous place
> this was to speed and take especial care to respect the 30mph limit and
> enforce it respectively.
>
> Obviously anyone caught in such a trap would be doubly willing to assist
> the police whenever they might ask for assistance or witnesses to come
> forward etc....
>
> Apparently the van was there for several hours and will IME have generated
> a profit for its operator of hundreds of thousands of pounds.

But if you chalenge the 'evidence' it , the 'evidence' is highly suspect.

Alan

>
> --
>
> R. Mark Clayton
>
> nospamclayton@btinternet.com
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>
> * actually true - four killed in under 4km but: -
>
> A6010 and A57 - motorcyclist killed in collision with car - one or other
> jumped lights - now has fixed camera.
> A6010 and A635 - PC recently killed in van in collision with car when
> answering emergency - sub judicae
> A6010 and A662 - pedestrian killed in collision with police car answering
> an emergency. My estimate was 65-75mph (depending on whether the
> pedestrian was seen before collision) - now has fixed camera.
> A6010 and A62 - PC killed when stolen car pushed his motorbike into the
> path of an artic. Driver convicted of murder.
>
> other than this very little for what is a very busy road.
>