Group: alt.politics.usa
From: Citizen Jimserac
Date: Saturday, November 24, 2007 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: Religion in Public Schools, pt 1

On Nov 24, 10:50 am, Feminazi Cuntkins wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 03:50:34 -0800 (PST), CitizenJimserac
>
> wrote:
> >Lastly, on a side topic,
> >May I inquire of your opinion on this "Golden Compass"
> >movie. I've heard that some religious group (s?) is/are
> >up in arms over it. What is the big hullabaloo
> >all about? From the looks of the previews, the visuals
> >are beautiful.
>
> I have done no reading on Pullman's stated intentions about the books,
> though they are a subject in which I had some professional interest.
> It can be argued that the trilogy of books by Pullman are essentially
> atheistic in nature, which upsets quite a lot of people as they are
> young adult literature. Pullman is, as I understand, an atheist.
>
> However, that's a very facile characterisation, as the presence of a
> creator is never in question in the stories, and much of the storyline
> is about religion and its effects, and the main story arc is directly
> biblical in inspiration.
>
> That said, religion and, more importantly, the creator of all things,
> doesn't come off very well in the books, and certainly some readers
> could take the impression that Pullman is either pointing out the
> stupidity or the futility of religious belief.
>
> Practically speaking, removing much of the religious aspect of the
> story is not a difficult thing to do, and it might in some peoples'
> opinion improve it. I suspect that the movie adaptation does this, I
> certainly would if I were challenged with adapting the story to
> screen. The worlds he created are very beautiful, and there are a
> great many appealing and exciting things in the books. They could
> very well make a great film, though we shall all have to see about
> that.
>
> FNC, not Bob

Well I refuse to let ANY group or interest do my thinking for me and I
really do not care if they like it or not. Thanks for giving me some
idea of what it is all about, I will most certainly probably see the
movie.

After having religion shoved at me for 9 years of Catholic Parochial
school by well meaning nuns,
I make it a point to think independently and to question everything,
in part as a reaction to that experience of near endless
indoctrination.

On a related note, I always felt that "The Lord of the Rings" had an
atheistic quality to it, but not intentionally so but this view is
very much in the minority and I am aware that Tolkien re-affirmed his
most devout Catholic faith many times. (Too many in my opinion he was
aware and afraid that people would misinterpret his work as
godless). Still no matter if it did or did not have religious
implications, his work is one of the great sagas of modern literature
and an exciting adventure story on a grand scale which can be enjoyed
at many levels, complete with its magic, wizards and elves (and no
priests, churches, or jesus).

Citizen Jimserac